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btdk5

1,853 posts

192 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Tryke3 said:
El stovey said:
So can anyone. The point is (as has been pointed out to you twice) someone showed a cartoon suggesting the terrorist problem was due to refugees when this thread is about a British terrorist.
he looks Jamaican to me
Describe what every British person looks like....?

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Countdown said:
So can polar bears.
I don't think this is correct

mcdjl said:
In that case I apologise profusely. I've been a maybe idiot for the last few days and have completly got the wrong end of the stick. I thought you said you wanted everyone suspected of being a terrorist to be investigated and locked up indefinitely until it was proven they weren't a threat.
Everyone known to the security services for involvement in terrorism should be detained.

El stovey said:
So can anyone. The point is (as has been pointed out to you twice) someone showed a cartoon suggesting the terrorist problem was due to refugees when this thread is about a British terrorist.
Anyone who is a terrorist should be detained.


anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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The CT strategy we have in place is, over all, effective.

A fair few plots have been foiled. The primary risk is home-grown lone wolf attacks like this.

Radicalisation and the risk and influence of terrorist ideologies is complex and evolving.

Fortunately we have grown-ups in charge of the strategy who don't propose or consider silly simplistic pub solutions to complex problems.


Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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bmw535i said:
Countdown said:
So can polar bears.
I don't think this is correct

mcdjl said:
In that case I apologise profusely. I've been a maybe idiot for the last few days and have completly got the wrong end of the stick. I thought you said you wanted everyone suspected of being a terrorist to be investigated and locked up indefinitely until it was proven they weren't a threat.
Everyone known to the security services for involvement in terrorism should be detained.

El stovey said:
So can anyone. The point is (as has been pointed out to you twice) someone showed a cartoon suggesting the terrorist problem was due to refugees when this thread is about a British terrorist.
Anyone who is a terrorist should be detained.
Agreed, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinnes (until last week) and few other Sinn Fein scammers can be arrested. Who else?

Captain Smerc

3,034 posts

118 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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PH XKR said:
Whatever colour the polar bear, if it has a beard that looks like straggling pubes its best avoided.
biglaugh

Countdown

40,195 posts

198 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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bmw535i said:
Countdown said:
So can polar bears.
I don't think this is correct
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

and that list doesn't include seals or penguins.

No doubt some of the lefty-liberals on here will say that we shouldn't tar all bears with the same brush. I say enough of this PC nonsense. Anyone who is a bear should be detained.

Edited by Countdown on Saturday 25th March 18:45

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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La Liga said:
The CT strategy we have in place is, over all, effective.

A fair few plots have been foiled. The primary risk is home-grown lone wolf attacks like this.

Radicalisation and the risk and influence of terrorist ideologies is complex and evolving.

Fortunately we have grown-ups in charge of the strategy who don't propose or consider silly simplistic pub solutions to complex problems.
Once again, how many acts if terror are too many? How many dead security agents are too many? How many civilians are too many?

You didn't answer last time

Gavia said:
Agreed, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinnes (until last week) and few other Sinn Fein scammers can be arrested. Who else?
Anyone involved in terrorism. You're knocking on an open door here


MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

172 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Gavia said:
Agreed, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinnes (until last week) and few other Sinn Fein scammers can be arrested. Who else?
If we're naming people I pick Mohamed Mukkadam. In fact skip jail, give the prick a bullet.

Sylvaforever

2,212 posts

100 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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La Liga said:
The CT strategy we have in place is, over all, effective.

A fair few plots have been foiled. The primary risk is home-grown lone wolf attacks like this.

Radicalisation and the risk and influence of terrorist ideologies is complex and evolving.

Fortunately we have grown-ups in charge of the strategy who don't propose or consider silly simplistic pub solutions to complex problems.
Lone Wolf? But what about the 8 arrests?

mcdjl

5,452 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Sylvaforever said:
Lone Wolf? But what about the 8 arrests?
How many of those have been released without charge? That was a knee jerk reaction so the authorities could be seen to be doing something to keep us safe.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
Gavia said:
Agreed, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinnes (until last week) and few other Sinn Fein scammers can be arrested. Who else?
If we're naming people I pick Mohamed Mukkadam. In fact skip jail, give the prick a bullet.
Is he a terrorist? He has to be involved in it according to BMW535i

Derek Smith

45,856 posts

250 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Sylvaforever said:
La Liga said:
The CT strategy we have in place is, over all, effective.

A fair few plots have been foiled. The primary risk is home-grown lone wolf attacks like this.

Radicalisation and the risk and influence of terrorist ideologies is complex and evolving.

Fortunately we have grown-ups in charge of the strategy who don't propose or consider silly simplistic pub solutions to complex problems.
Lone Wolf? But what about the 8 arrests?
What about them? Are they connected to this offence? Are they the result of information gained from the investigation of the offender?

You have no idea and neither do I.

mcdjl

5,452 posts

197 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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bmw535i said:
mcdjl said:
In that case I apologise profusely. I've been a maybe idiot for the last few days and have completly got the wrong end of the stick. I thought you said you wanted everyone suspected of being a terrorist to be investigated and locked up indefinitely until it was proven they weren't a threat.
Everyone known to the security services for involvement in terrorism should be detained.

Anyone who is a terrorist should be detained.
I fully agree. And they should be put on trial and have their involvement proven in a court of law at the first opportunity.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Gavia said:
Is he a terrorist? He has to be involved in it according to BMW535i
I don't recall naming that person as being involved.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Derek Smith said:
What about them? Are they connected to this offence? Are they the result of information gained from the investigation of the offender?

You have no idea and neither do I.
Would you be able to answer the question I posed earlier when you stated I am defined by the car I want to drive? I wasn't sure what you meant by that

PH XKR

1,761 posts

104 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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btdk5 said:
Describe what every British person looks like....?
Then native colour is white.

Countdown

40,195 posts

198 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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PH XKR said:
btdk5 said:
Describe what every British person looks like....?
Then native colour is white.
Adrian Elms was born in Kent to British parents. Does that not make him British?

His mum was white. Does that at least make him half-British?

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Sylvaforever said:
La Liga said:
The CT strategy we have in place is, over all, effective.

A fair few plots have been foiled. The primary risk is home-grown lone wolf attacks like this.

Radicalisation and the risk and influence of terrorist ideologies is complex and evolving.

Fortunately we have grown-ups in charge of the strategy who don't propose or consider silly simplistic pub solutions to complex problems
Lone Wolf? But what about the 8 arrests?
The attack itself was 'lone wolf', but you do raise a valid point. It may turn out there were others involved in this in terms of encouraging / inciting etc.

On the other hand it may be a case this incident has forced the security service's hands. There's a balance to be struck between allowing people to plot / commit offences and evidence gather, vs intervention and prevention. There may have been a few people getting close to the mark and this event was assessed as being a potential trigger for them to act so arrests were made.

Quite a lot of possibilities.

Gavia

7,627 posts

93 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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bmw535i said:
Gavia said:
Is he a terrorist? He has to be involved in it according to BMW535i
I don't recall naming that person as being involved.
You really are hard work. You set the rule "anyone involved in terrorism", so when MrBrightSi named this guy I asked him if the person he wanted to shoot met your rules I.e. Involved in terrorism.

He hasn't answered, as the answer is "no"

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Countdown said:
Adrian Elms was born in Kent to British parents. Does that not make him British?

His mum was white. Does that at least make him half-British?
I don't think his nationality has any relevance.

Gavia said:
You really are hard work. You set the rule "anyone involved in terrorism", so when MrBrightSi named this guy I asked him if the person he wanted to shoot met your rules I.e. Involved in terrorism.

He hasn't answered, as the answer is "no"
So if he's not involved, what's the issue?


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