UK General Election 2015

[Digga]

Guam said:

Granny leave, seriously what the blistering fk are these politicians smoking!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3039187/La...
What the hell is the point of running a damned business, if all the elites want to do is force us as owners to bay for yet more hair brained social engineering bks!

Arch stupidity.

Of course any decent employer who was able to grant this probably would come to some arrangement with the employee in any case, although depending on the area, the worker might not actually be that you and, might also hit the employer for great grandchildren time off too.

The whole premise of these pronunciations seems to be the outdated, 1970s, adversarial, employer vs. employee standoff. It's patronising to both sides in the extreme - especially post-GFC when so many businesses survived and workers kept their jobs through mutual compromise and graft.

[Johnnytheboy]

HonestIago said:

turbobloke said:

Relative to the nonsense served up in The Guardian on a daily basis the DT ought to be renamed the Daily Sane.

The Telegraph, or Shariagraph I've seen it called , really has fallen from grace in a big way in the last 5 years or so. They seem to have sacked all the decent journalists and instead employ "right-on" establishment drones.

Twas on the Media Show (R4) the other day. The owners are trying to get it to turn a certain profit (£60m iirc) which they can only achieve by sacking all the good people.

When Janet Daley goes from the ST I'll stop buying it.

[JagLover]

Johnnytheboy said:

Twas on the Media Show (R4) the other day. The owners are trying to get it to turn a certain profit (£60m iirc) which they can only achieve by sacking all the good people.

When Janet Daley goes from the ST I'll stop buying it.

I still get the Saturday telegraph but mainly for the supplements.

Those calling it "right wing" probably haven't spent that much time reading it lately.

[johnxjsc1985]

Cleggy said "prosperity for all" he get's my vote

[BlackLabel]

Interesting tactics by some of the Tories in Sheffield.

[l354uge]

Surprised at how good the UKIP manifesto is

[Axionknight]

BlackLabel said:

Interesting tactics by some of the Tories in Sheffield.

If I lived in the area I'd rather vote to ensure Clegg was binned - I know it's another Labour MP but I will piss my pants if he gets binned

Edited by Axionknight on Wednesday 15th April 20:00

[McWigglebum4th]

Axionknight said:

If I lived in the area I'd rather bote to ensure Clegg was binned - I know it's another Labour MP but I will piss my pants if he gets binned

So you would prefer to see a labour government then a tory/lib den partnership


Do you like paying tax?

[Sir Humphrey]

hidetheelephants said:

How is it private? HAs are custodians of public property, they were given council housing to administer because councils were st at managing this asset and were limited by law in what they could do in terms of raising money to renovate or build new units. They did not buy this housing, it still belongs to the taxpayer as far as I can see.

Looks like its a mix of both so I agree that they should be forced to sell the properties given to them by the state and hand the money back, or just pay for them. Anything else they can run themselves unregulated like any other charity or business should.

[Axionknight]

McWigglebum4th said:

So you would prefer to see a labour government then a tory/lib den partnership


Do you like paying tax?

Love it.

[Scuffers]

Sir Humphrey said:

hidetheelephants said:

How is it private? HAs are custodians of public property, they were given council housing to administer because councils were st at managing this asset and were limited by law in what they could do in terms of raising money to renovate or build new units. They did not buy this housing, it still belongs to the taxpayer as far as I can see.

Looks like its a mix of both so I agree that they should be forced to sell the properties given to them by the state and hand the money back, or just pay for them. Anything else they can run themselves unregulated like any other charity or business should.

Not sure about ha's, but the housing trusts all paid big money for the housing stock.

[MGJohn]

Currently watching SKY's heavyweight News Media luvvy Adam Boulton cross examining Suzanne Evans. The woman who is in part responsible for UKIP's manifesto.

I have been impressed with her in the past but she is more than holding her own here and responding with a fine thinking on her feet technique.

Yes, very impressed by this woman and not for the first time.....

[turbobloke]

Not helpful to CMD - the front page of today's Times claims Brussels is going to stuff Cameron in any attempted renegotiations ahead of a possible referendum. Naturally that would be applicable if he's re-elected as PM somehow.

[MGJohn]

turbobloke said:

Not helpful to CMD - the front page of today's Times claims Brussels is going to stuff Cameron in any attempted renegotiations ahead of a possible referendum. Naturally that would be applicable if he's re-elected as PM somehow.

Yes, I saw that. A real body blow and one Nigel F has highlighted time and time again and rightly so.

[chris watton]

Anyone being constantly spammed with emails from Cameron's version of the Tory Party?

Spam filter now changed, it's not as if I needed yet another reason to not vote for them....

[Scuffers]

chris watton said:

Anyone being constantly spammed with emails from Cameron's version of the Tory Party?

Spam filter now changed, it's not as if I needed yet another reason to not vote for them....

Went one better...

Reported it as spam on every open list.

[Zod]

Mojocvh said:

Symbolica said:

edh said:

Do you support the right to appropriate the property of housing associations? - seems crazy to me

Our whole economy seems to be predicated on maintaining a housing boom - it's the only reason I can think of for such a daft policy.

Yes. It maybe an attempt to gain a day on the front page for our prime minister but what happens when the housing association properties are bought? Where do the needy and unfortunate find housing for their families and come the winter what then do the Tories propose that they let the weather cull the poorest of our society?

Over to Sod Zod for the party line...

The housing associations get payment fronm the buyer plus a balancing payment from government, so they can replace the sold housing. That, as I understand it, is the odea and the reason there Is an associated cost.

You are a tiresome individual.

Edited by Zod on Wednesday 15th April 21:27

[Zod]

Guam said:

richardxjr said:

That's it, the Tories have lost it.

Dig up an infamous 'Thatcherism', annoy the LAs and HAs, not do anything about housing shortage, alienate private sector renters, spend 6 fking billion quid, to appease a tiny fragment of the electorate?

And I thought the Green manifesto was stupid? This is bonkers.

Here's the keys to the UK Milliband & Sturgeon.

And the usual suspects (yes Zod I am looking at you)
Wonder why large numbers of us can no longer stomach voting for any of the main 3
It is a pathetic pointless stunt to give our tax contributions to people to buy votes and ensure power
Stuff them all!

I don't think this is a compelling policy. I don't think the Tories are anywhere near perfect. They are simply much less bad than any of the rest.

[Zod]

MGJohn said:

turbobloke said:

Not helpful to CMD - the front page of today's Times claims Brussels is going to stuff Cameron in any attempted renegotiations ahead of a possible referendum. Naturally that would be applicable if he's re-elected as PM somehow.

Yes, I saw that. A real body blow and one Nigel F has highlighted time and time again and rightly so.

It means nothing. It is simple posturing. Brussels wants a Labour government.

[turbobloke]

Zod said:

MGJohn said:

turbobloke said:

Not helpful to CMD - the front page of today's Times claims Brussels is going to stuff Cameron in any attempted renegotiations ahead of a possible referendum. Naturally that would be applicable if he's re-elected as PM somehow.

Yes, I saw that. A real body blow and one Nigel F has highlighted time and time again and rightly so.

It means nothing. It is simple posturing. Brussels wants a Labour government.

Even if so, it's still unhelpful to CMD; it indicates that a Labour government really would be a disaster; and it confirms that we should remove ourselves from the EU asap given that (as per your post) they're posturing to 'help' the electorate vote in a government that would be cosy for the EU's future aims, but decidedly unfavourable for the UK's long-term future.