Paedo beaten to a pulp

[Scuffers]

FourWheelDrift said:

dandarez said:

What about ridiculous Mirror comments?
Vaughan Jones used reasonable force. What did he get for his trouble?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vaughan-jones...

The police had no idea of what had happened and until they did they took both into custody. Once they knew they released him without charge.

Yes, and it took them 18 hours to figure that out.

Ih the mean time, he now has to declare that he has been arrested for a violent crime on application forms (like visas)

[toohuge]

Whilst the beating would probably be deemed disproportionate, the offender was lucky the father didn't have firearms in the house too.

There are strange things going on though, like staying up till 1am playing video games and the father leaving for food at that time too, not exactly responsible parenting.

However, here in the US there are different views on the level of reaction required when in danger, you have the right to protect you and your property and this can be taken very seriously.

Chris

[Mastodon2]

Thankyou4calling said:

No need for a long established legal system then. Just dish it out yourself! Sounds like a recipe for anarchy to me.

Why bother taking him to court, what jury would find him guilty?

If you caught someone noncing your son, you'd phone the police and let the courts sort it out?

[toohuge]

Whilst the beating would probably be deemed disproportionate, the offender was lucky the father didn't have firearms in the house too.

There are strange things going on though, like staying up till 1am playing video games and the father leaving for food at that time too, not exactly responsible parenting.

However, here in the US there are different views on the level of reaction required when in danger, you have the right to protect you and your property and this can be taken very seriously.

Chris

[hedgefinder]

the father was foolish to call the police, it should have ended up with another unexplained disappearance...
I can tell you in all honesty that if I had come home to that they wouldnt have had any calls and a body would never have been found.
I also wouldnt have the slightest problem with my conscience..

[Thankyou4calling]

Baryonyx said:

It sounds like you are permitting the child molester to go about doing as he pleases.

I've not said or suggested anything remotely like that, far from it.

[egor110]

Thankyou4calling said:

Surely he will face a pretty serious charge for this?

A horrible scenario but unless it was self defence you can't go around administering your own punishment even in America I wouldn't have thought?

So you walk in on someone fking your child, your going to ask if you could possibly have a word once they finish?

Of course not you'd beat the fk out of them with whatever was at hand and then hope you hadn't killed them.

[MajorProblem]

Don't watch if easily upset, show a man shooting his child's abductor in the head.

http://youtu.be/p_RSwM7Abdk

[egor110]

MajorProblem said:

Don't watch if easily upset, show a man shooting his child's abductor in the head.

http://youtu.be/p_RSwM7Abdk

On the plus side we can 100% say he'll never ever molest again.

[trashbat]

hedgefinder said:

the father was foolish to call the police, it should have ended up with another unexplained disappearance...
I can tell you in all honesty that if I had come home to that they wouldnt have had any calls and a body would never have been found.
I also wouldnt have the slightest problem with my conscience..

Your fabled internet hardmannery and hypothetical body disposal skills are noted, but actually my own aptitude for overly loud vigilante justice is far greater.

Thus, with your level of self-promotion, there can be no doubt that I would happen across your trying to get rid of your miscreant's corpse, a beaten to death black man I suspect you would have been remiss in not clearly labelling as a paedophile, and naturally I would not pause for questions before my manly, shirtless bashing in of your skull. You racist murderer.

Now, I don't imagine anyone here is actually harder than I, but I suppose it's theoretically possible, and they too might stumble upon my own handiwork in progress, and before long we have a kind of really st, bloodied, hyper-violent internet version of the Old Woman Who Swallowed A Fly.

Oh, is that why we have a justice system?

[BlackLabel]

Really? Killing someone in a fit of rage under those circumstances is one thing but to then cover up the killing and dispose of the body and risk a prison sentence if caught is something else imo.

hedgefinder said:

the father was foolish to call the police, it should have ended up with another unexplained disappearance...
I can tell you in all honesty that if I had come home to that they wouldnt have had any calls and a body would never have been found.
I also wouldnt have the slightest problem with my conscience..

[otolith]

There's no way that would be considered reasonable force in the UK. The CPS would consider it in the public interest to prosecute and the jury would be railroaded into deciding on a narrow point of law and told to set aside their feelings about whether the victim deserved the beating. A conviction and custodial sentence would be likely, IMO. The US is culturally different, and I suspect have a different idea of the extent to which it is in the public interest to discourage this kind of thing.

[Amirhussain]

hedgefinder said:

the father was foolish to call the police, it should have ended up with another unexplained disappearance...
I can tell you in all honesty that if I had come home to that they wouldnt have had any calls and a body would never have been found.
I also wouldnt have the slightest problem with my conscience..

[turbobloke]

rollondeath said:

Thankyou4calling said:

Surely he will face a pretty serious charge for this?

A horrible scenario but unless it was self defence you can't go around administering your own punishment even in America I wouldn't have thought?

Chief Chitwood "he was just acting like a dad". No charges. I like the yanks.

Over here it would be different because criminals are victims of society.

However, looking at what happened it looks proportionate, after all the father stopped while the serial sex offender molesting his son for several years still had a pulse. He should get medals for self restraint and civic duty.

[Pesty]

Thankyou4calling said:

Surely he will face a pretty serious charge for this?

A horrible scenario but unless it was self defence you can't go around administering your own punishment even in America I wouldn't have thought?

No charges at all. In that state you can use any force including lethal to stop a fellany ( spelling) I've been reading on us sites.

The guy is lucky he's still alive and looks so good.

[Thankyou4calling]

Pesty said:

No charges at all. In that state you can use any force including lethal to stop a fellany ( spelling) I've been reading on us sites.

The guy is lucky he's still alive and looks so good.

Could the offender take out a civil suit against his attacker and claim damages?

[Pesty]

Possibly. It's seems to be all the rage.

Not sure he would win though.

[Art0ir]

Pesty said:

Possibly. It's seems to be all the rage.

Not sure he would win though.

A woman was just awarded $24 BILLION from a tobacco company because he died from lung cancer. There is no limits to what could happen.

[anonymous-user]

I thought it was quite a controlled response by the father in the circumstances and I really couldn't see any jury over there or here convicting him.

I can't imagine how i would react if I found someone abusing the people I love but from what I understand about psychology and physiology and without the benefit of military or police training to help decision making in situations of high stress I wouldn't have much choice in how I responded, my brain would kick into fight or flight mode and I would react accordingly.

[ZOLLAR]

Justin Cyder said:

Not sure myself. I'm a dad of a young girl & I can't say I wouldn't do the same & I can't bring myself to judge this guy, but we have the rule of law for a reason. It's a moral dilemma if you look at it with a cold objective eye, but I'm not crying for the kiddy fiddler.

I'm honestly not judging you in any manner I promise, but i'm a father of a young girl and if I ever came home to that or found out it happened I really would lose my temper and the outcome for him would be death and the outcome for me in this country would end in a prison sentence.