The riots - Michael Gove thrashes Harriet Harman

[Mr Whippy]

Miguel Alvarez said:

forsure said:

zaphod42 said:

He is good. Future PM?

Probably the cleverest man in the cabinet, but unfortunately not very 'telegenic' - if he ever became a contender his slightly odd looks and his excellent diction would count against him.

Hope I'm wrong.

I agree. Sad that people will ignore the fact the dude has a brain in his head and focus on a whole heap of foolishness.

I'd vote for him.

I like people who say what they think, even if I don't agree with it. An admirable quality in today's politics.

Dave

[Eric Mc]

I like the way she said she wasn't trying to make political capital out of the riots and then proceeded to try and make political capital out of the riots.

[Castrol Craig]

Eric Mc said:

I like the way she said she wasn't trying to make political capital out of the riots and then proceeded to try and make political capital out of the riots.

an oxymoron if ever there was one.

[Apache]

Does it matter? none of em are interested in doing anything other than make capital out of it. All this is doing is stalling for time, going round and round interviewing idiots with nothing but words is avoiding the issue. Cameron alluded to it when he said 'Society is sick' yes chum, it is, and it's your multicultural socially engineered dream that's sick. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

2 COBRA meetings down and what has been achieved? vigilante gangs, ethnically divided roaming our streets, a Giro cheque fulled bomb about to re erupt god knows where and no plans for a fix, an exhausted, overstretched police force on constant alert but no new legislation.

We need another Churchill or (god forgive me) Thatcher, someone with character and balls (NOT the Ed variety!)

[ExChrispy Porker]

and what exactly do you think Mrs Thatcher would do in this situation that would make any difference?

[gtdc]

Apache said:

Cameron alluded to it when he said 'Society is sick' yes chum, it is, and it's your multicultural socially engineered dream that's sick.

He didn't make that - Labour did. Bloke hasn't even been in power for 2 years and he's had to do what he's done with his hands tied to the LibDems thanks to a load of people who should know better voting UKIP. Cameron's got balls. Perhaps they might not be as big as Maggie's but he's got 'em. He's been well on top of things since he got back and there's a real change in his tone and determination.

[s2art]

ExChrispy Porker said:

and what exactly do you think Mrs Thatcher would do in this situation that would make any difference?

She would have reacted much faster for starters. And I wouldnt have been surprised if the Army had been called in
when it became obvious that the Met were just not coping (Sunday night approx) if Thatcher had been in charge. At least the Thatcher post the Falklands anyway.

[DieselGriff]

gtdc said:

He didn't make that - Labour did. Bloke hasn't even been in power for 2 years and he's had to do what he's done with his hands tied to the LibDems thanks to a load of people who should know better voting UKIP. Cameron's got balls. Perhaps they might not be as big as Maggie's but he's got 'em. He's been well on top of things since he got back and there's a real change in his tone and determination.

Regardless of the riots and the lib dems Cameron was bent on bankrupting this country completely anyway. More power to the UKIP, the only alternative to lefty liberalism which we have now in abundance thanks to Comrade Cameron.

[soad]

gtdc said:

He totally took her down.

Good speech

[rah1888]

DieselGriff said:

Regardless of the riots and the lib dems Cameron was bent on bankrupting this country completely anyway. More power to the UKIP, the only alternative to lefty liberalism which we have now in abundance thanks to Comrade Cameron.

Didn't the previous government make a pretty good job of completing that task already though?

[Apache]

ExChrispy Porker said:

and what exactly do you think Mrs Thatcher would do in this situation that would make any difference?

Mobilised the Police, give them powers to be proper 'bds' and to hell with PC, put the Army on readiness, sack a few of the dross in the Party (might not leave many but..) and generally act like someone who knows what needs to be done.

Can you imagine Cameron saying "see that ship, that one with the Argie flag about to escape our waters? sink the fker" I sure as hell can't

[Apache]

gtdc said:

Apache said:

Cameron alluded to it when he said 'Society is sick' yes chum, it is, and it's your multicultural socially engineered dream that's sick.

He didn't make that - Labour did. Bloke hasn't even been in power for 2 years and he's had to do what he's done with his hands tied to the LibDems thanks to a load of people who should know better voting UKIP. Cameron's got balls. Perhaps they might not be as big as Maggie's but he's got 'em. He's been well on top of things since he got back and there's a real change in his tone and determination.

Yes, I know but a 'Multicultural society' is also CMDs dream, he doesn't shut up about it

[gtdc]

Apache said:

ExChrispy Porker said:

and what exactly do you think Mrs Thatcher would do in this situation that would make any difference?

Mobilised the Police, give them powers to be proper 'bds' and to hell with PC, put the Army on readiness, sack a few of the dross in the Party (might not leave many but..) and generally act like someone who knows what needs to be done.

Can you imagine Cameron saying "see that ship, that one with the Argie flag about to escape our waters? sink the fker" I sure as hell can't

It's a wonderfully pleasing fantasy but totally unachievable after all the Labour introduced laws.

[Apache]

gtdc said:

Apache said:

ExChrispy Porker said:

and what exactly do you think Mrs Thatcher would do in this situation that would make any difference?

Mobilised the Police, give them powers to be proper 'bds' and to hell with PC, put the Army on readiness, sack a few of the dross in the Party (might not leave many but..) and generally act like someone who knows what needs to be done.

Can you imagine Cameron saying "see that ship, that one with the Argie flag about to escape our waters? sink the fker" I sure as hell can't

It's a wonderfully pleasing fantasy but totally unachievable after all the Labour introduced laws.

Who writes laws? I'm pretty sure that is what is supposed to happen when you recall parliament in an emergency. CMD has all the power to do that and he did nothing, zip, nada......save put on his angry face and speak with an angry voice. Pathetic

[DieselGriff]

rah1888 said:

DieselGriff said:

Regardless of the riots and the lib dems Cameron was bent on bankrupting this country completely anyway. More power to the UKIP, the only alternative to lefty liberalism which we have now in abundance thanks to Comrade Cameron.

Didn't the previous government make a pretty good job of completing that task already though?

Yes, and in the past we would expect the conservatives to come in and sort it out so the morons could vote labour in again later, now, well what's the difference?

[gtdc]

bus pass said:

That'll be me as well then.

I understand the temptation to do so but we ended up weaker because of it. I do believe that this week will end up helping the country to move away from the Labour mess though.

[Apache]

gtdc said:

Apache said:

Cameron alluded to it when he said 'Society is sick' yes chum, it is, and it's your multicultural socially engineered dream that's sick.

He didn't make that - Labour did. Bloke hasn't even been in power for 2 years and he's had to do what he's done with his hands tied to the LibDems thanks to a load of people who should know better voting UKIP. Cameron's got balls. Perhaps they might not be as big as Maggie's but he's got 'em. He's been well on top of things since he got back and there's a real change in his tone and determination.

Ah, you'll be one of them there tactical voters then. Sorry chum, I'll vote for who I want to if that's alright with you. I think that's called Democracy

[gtdc]

It's hard though isn't it? If you know by voting UKIP you actually end up further than what you wanted to start with.

[DieselGriff]

gtdc said:

bus pass said:

That'll be me as well then.

I understand the temptation to do so but we ended up weaker because of it. I do believe that this week will end up helping the country to move away from the Labour mess though.

In what way are we weaker? Seriously the current Government even if it was completely blue would not have changed much at all - Cameron wanted to be the "Greenest Government Ever" well before the election so the climate change bill would have happened anyway and for what good at an expense of 18bn a year for 20 years?

[Apache]

gtdc said:

It's hard though isn't it? If you know by voting UKIP you actually end up further than what you wanted to start with.

You're beginning to wind me up now chap, don't presume to know what I want. Clever sods like you have bullied people for far too long into voting tactically. Now we have a two party system and it's not coping too well is it.