Miserable tube drivers for Olympics

Miserable tube drivers for Olympics

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egor110

16,928 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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0a said:
This is fine so long as they agree to take pay cuts during quiet periods such as holidays, weekends, during the day and so on.
Why would they take a pay cut? You'd expect at quieter times less drivers would be on duty not have the same amount there working.

fatboy69

9,373 posts

188 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Don't see what they, or at least the likes of Bob Crowe who is behind this, should be allowed to get way with trying to hold TFL to ransom.

If he gets his own way will the bus drivers be the next to try it on? What about shop workers, road sweepers etc etc?

The tube drivers on £35/40k per annum should be grateful that they have got jobs

FunBusMk2

17,911 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
You could do that, but what happens if they decide they don't want the extra overtime? .
The word bribery springs to mind.

Some Gump

12,725 posts

187 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
You could do that, but what happens if they decide they don't want the extra overtime?
Your then stuck with people wanting transporting to the olympics but not enough trains, hence why there giving them the bonus to make sure that doesn't happen.
They call in sick and take the bonus anyway?

valiant1

10,388 posts

161 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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fatboy69 said:
If he gets his own way will the bus drivers be the next to try it on? What about shop workers, road sweepers etc etc?
I'll think you'll find that the bus drivers union ,Unite, as having their own discussions over the Olympics.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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So has anyone got any real insight in to how Stratford Sports Day is actually affecting TfL operations and driver hours or is this the usual "Anything to do with public transport in London is unionist Left wing militancy and they should all be shot" PH rant?

The_Burg

4,846 posts

215 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Not part of TfL but work on a support contract to them. We will be required to work 12 hour shifts including nights to cover any issues.
Normal hours are Monday to Friday. Peak time of year for holidays and we are banned from taking them, our bonus...
Having a job.

Don't entirely blame them for this, wages are ridiculous but having to travel to London is going to be hell on earth for the period. Really dreading it.

No support in general for the unionist over paid jobs worths but in this case i believe they are in the right.

Jandywa

1,061 posts

152 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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fk that, i'll go down and drive them for much less! Can't be that hard...

z4chris99

11,355 posts

180 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
Yet bankers seem to be worthy of receiving for just doing there job?
a) I don't know many "bankers" who just work their contracted hours.

b) I don't know many "bankers" who hold their company to random by demanding bonus's

c) I don't know many "bankers" who have even had a bonus in the last couple of years

d) bob crow is a

egor110

16,928 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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FunBusMk2 said:
The word bribery springs to mind.
Not really some people value being with there family, they might be quite happy with a flat 40 hour week and have no interest in the overtime.

valiant1

10,388 posts

161 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
So has anyone got any real insight in to how Stratford Sports Day is actually affecting TfL operations and driver hours or is this the usual "Anything to do with public transport in London is unionist Left wing militancy and they should all be shot" PH rant?
Well put it like this, The Jubilee line alone is getting nearly 100 extra drivers to cope with the increased passenger load not to mention the other key lines (central and district). Stations are going to be swamped with extra staff (300 just recruited) and office staff will be handed a HiVi and a load of maps and will be mucking in.

There are huge disruptions to the normal working day (3 peak times instead of the normal 2 for instance) and basically staffs' normal contract (max hours worked,restdays, annual leave,etc) is all going out the window for the duration of the games hence the 'compensation'




egor110

16,928 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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z4chris99 said:
a) I don't know many "bankers" who just work their contracted hours.

b) I don't know many "bankers" who hold their company to random by demanding bonus's

c) I don't know many "bankers" who have even had a bonus in the last couple of years

d) bob crow is a
So if the tube drivers have it so good why don't we see bankers flooding over to be tube drivers?
Re bob crowe , how very blue collar a phrase you use.

z4chris99

11,355 posts

180 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
So if the tube drivers have it so good why don't we see bankers flooding over to be tube drivers?
Re bob crowe , how very blue collar a phrase you use.
because although I wouldn't mind a cosy 7 hour day job with amazing holidays and bonus for turning up to work, I would rather work harder and get paid more

roofer

5,136 posts

212 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
So if the tube drivers have it so good why don't we see bankers flooding over to be tube drivers?
Maybe they llike to use more than 7 brain cells a day? As usual, Bow Crowe and his 'Membahs' are out for an easy earner.

TFL should have trained management to drive and called the bds bluff.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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The_Burg said:
Not part of TfL but work on a support contract to them. We will be required to work 12 hour shifts including nights to cover any issues.
While you're working 12 hour days, I'll be working 14 hours, 7 days a week and might not have a weekend to myself for 4 months. Much like every other fking summer.

FunBusMk2

17,911 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
FunBusMk2 said:
The word bribery springs to mind.
Not really some people value being with there family, they might be quite happy with a flat 40 hour week and have no interest in the overtime.
Why pay the bonus to these people then?

eldar

21,872 posts

197 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
So if the tube drivers have it so good why don't we see bankers flooding over to be tube drivers?
Re bob crowe , how very blue collar a phrase you use.
They are. The average banker, you know the one behind the counter, earns £22k a year. A little less than a tube driver who earns £75k for developing piles and going on strike.

egor110

16,928 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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It seems that this thread has now descended to who has the worst/best job who's going to work the most hours and have the least weekends of a year
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When we got our various jobs we all knew what the job entailed but some of us were willing to work long hours , 7 days a week whilst others weren't. Personally i'll take the lower pay, the mile journey to work and 13 weeks off a year but i'm not going to knock you if you've chased the money, i will though if you bleat on about how somebody else has better conditions than you.
At the end of the day none of us on here can change what deal there union and management have com to can we?

egor110

16,928 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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FunBusMk2 said:
Why pay the bonus to these people then?
Because if a union negotiate a pay increase it goes to everyone regardless of if they belong to the union or support any industrial action, hence the scab term.

FunBusMk2

17,911 posts

219 months

Thursday 8th March 2012
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egor110 said:
FunBusMk2 said:
Why pay the bonus to these people then?
Because if a union negotiate a pay increase it goes to everyone regardless of if they belong to the union or support any industrial action, hence the scab term.
So on that basis everyone could take the money and do fk all overtime at all still. Or are there terms attached to the 'bonus'?

I always thought a bonus was for work already done, not work about to be done.