Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie

[Odie]

Bing o said:

st food sold to st people. Boo fking hoo.

greggs maybe so but up the road from where I work is a small bakers that is run by a few little old ladies, they make fresh sausage rolls, cornish pasties etc that are awesome. They are going to be affected by this change too. But then people perhaps wont mind them putting their prices up as its always packed.

[BOR]

Bakeryinfo said:

.....Gideon replied: “I can’t remember the last time I bought a pasty in Greggs. Do they do roast swan with caviar flavour”

Government by toffs, for toffs.

[Justayellowbadge]

BOR said:

Bakeryinfo said:

.....Gideon replied: “I can’t remember the last time I bought a pasty in Greggs. Do they do roast swan with caviar flavour”

Government by toffs, for toffs.

Behave.

It's no different from saying you don't eat Findus Crispy Pancakes with Bird's Eye Potato Waffles for your 'tea'.

Not out of touch. Just not st.

[roachcoach]

If this is what the country is complaining about, I can only assume we've cleared the deficit, indeed we've progressed and taken over the world, colonised the moon and cured all disease and taught lane disciple to all and sundry....

Oh, wait....we've NOT done that.


For fks sakes get some fking perspective.

[vonuber]

Pistonheads: not being poor matters.

[roachcoach]

vonuber said:

Pistonheads: not being poor matters.

People who are 'poor' would do well to prepare their own food as opposed to going to a fking take-away.

[JagLover]

Spiritual_Beggar said:

This is the kind of Tax that really shows how out of touch, and braindead these Politicians are.


The Tax system is riddled with these pointless, complicated taxes.....which just leave so many opportunities for people to find loopholes.


Take this one for example.....


If served hot, then there will be VAT on it. But if served cold, then there isn't. If served warm during the summer, then no VAT as the food is deemed to be same temperature as the shop...but during the winter, VAT will apply because the ambient temp of the shop will be lower.

W T F!!!!!

So Gregg's just need to provide Mircowaves so people can heat the food up. Job done! Problem solved!



And we wonder why so many businesses, etc pay Accountants to find loopholes in our tax system!


Politicians....GET A GRIP....simplify the system, and it will be a lot harder for people to find loopholes!

As long as basic foodstufs don't have Vat on them such complexities abound.

Vat experts can also spend much time debating whether a product is a biscuit or a cake.

I think it is an important principal that the neccesities of life do not have Vat charged on them. With food this could be achieved by exempting certain basic foodstufs and then putting Vat on the rest. But can you imagine the political storm that would cause?

[grumbledoak]

roachcoach said:

People who are 'poor' would do well to prepare their own food as opposed to going to a fking take-away.

Quite. The other week I was lazy and bought some pre-made coleslaw and brocolli cheese. Two days later I bought the raw ingredients and made both, better, for a quarter of the cost.

[anonymous-user]

So the number of purchases that you make from Greggs is now a key indicator for how in-touch you are with the working man?

My grandad used to work down a mine (so the very definition of a "working man") and I never saw him eating anything from Greggs...

[thinfourth2]

JagLover said:

I think it is an important principal that the neccesities of life do not have Vat charged on them.

However it is illegal to walk around naked but i get charged VAT on my clothes

[Bill]

BOR said:

Government by toffs, for toffs.

It's revenge for the hunting ban

[JagLover]

thinfourth2 said:

However it is illegal to walk around naked but i get charged VAT on my clothes

However you could cloth yourself for an entire year for £50-£100 if you shopped at some of the cheaper stores.

Anything you buy over the most basic clothing is not a neccesity.

[Caulkhead]

BOR said:

Bakeryinfo said:

.....Gideon replied: “I can’t remember the last time I bought a pasty in Greggs. Do they do roast swan with caviar flavour”

Government by toffs, for toffs.

Aye comrade, come the revolution only pasties will be served in the socialist workers parliament!

[Puggit]

Real quote from CMD said:

I am a pasty eater myself, I go to Cornwall on holiday, I love a hot pasty.

Oh dear...

[BOR]

Claiming Gideon eats roast swan and caviar is just having a bit of a larf, likewise, no one really expects Lord Fauntleroy to be frequenting Greggs (or any other MPs LIB/CON or LAB for that matter)or that it per se makes him out of touch.

But it does seem like a strange set of priorities - Tobin Tax? NO WAY ! Pie Tax? Yeah why not ? Doesn't affect Toryworld, just the poor, let's do it.

[The Black Flash]

JagLover said:

Spiritual_Beggar said:

This is the kind of Tax that really shows how out of touch, and braindead these Politicians are.


The Tax system is riddled with these pointless, complicated taxes.....which just leave so many opportunities for people to find loopholes.


Take this one for example.....


If served hot, then there will be VAT on it. But if served cold, then there isn't. If served warm during the summer, then no VAT as the food is deemed to be same temperature as the shop...but during the winter, VAT will apply because the ambient temp of the shop will be lower.

W T F!!!!!

So Gregg's just need to provide Mircowaves so people can heat the food up. Job done! Problem solved!



And we wonder why so many businesses, etc pay Accountants to find loopholes in our tax system!


Politicians....GET A GRIP....simplify the system, and it will be a lot harder for people to find loopholes!

As long as basic foodstufs don't have Vat on them such complexities abound.

Vat experts can also spend much time debating whether a product is a biscuit or a cake.

I think it is an important principal that the neccesities of life do not have Vat charged on them. With food this could be achieved by exempting certain basic foodstufs and then putting Vat on the rest. But can you imagine the political storm that would cause?

And guess what...it's largely down to our old friends the EU.
http://eureferendum.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/making-...

Short version: EU states that you cannot have different vat rates on the same kind of thing (food...). So you either zero rate the lot, or you put VAT on the lot. Fish and chips already had VAT on, so if Georgie had left pasties at zero, the govt would have been liable for millions in compensation to the fish friars. So he did the politicians thing and put tax on everything...

[mattviatura]

Off-topic but John Mann MP is about the most miserable man in the House of Commons.

[wiggy001]

This is a ridiculous ruling that will be a nightmare (read: expensive) to administer. As mentioned above (and conveniently ignored), whether VAT is applicable will depend on the temperature of the product in relation to the ambient temperature.

Take a sausage roll out of the oven: £1.20
Leave it a few minutes: still £1.20
Leave it 10 minutes: £1.00

So a shop with the thermostat up high will be able to sell hotter sausage rolls without charging vat?!

And what if I buy a hot sausage roll but don't get to eat it for an hour, by which time it's cooled down?

Madness and pointless.

[V8mate]

Ken McMeikan, the chief executive of Greggs, has “lost touch” with his own business. He should pop into some of the branches at lunchtime and ask the staff why the heated displays are empty and why "it'll be another 10-12 minutes" before any baked goods are available.

Irrelevant of your opinion on the brand's quality, they are an absolute shower when it comes to meeting even the most basic tenets of retail competence.

[MX7]

How can you base how out of touch someone is by judging their eating habits? What a stupid association to make. Crappy comment from someone who sells crappy food.

Never been there, never will.