Could Boris be anymore of a legend?

[martin84]

Ayahuasca said:

Being PM is all to do with timing. Hague got it wrong. Boris will get it right.

Maybe if the Tories had stuck with Hague they might've won in 2005. We'll never know though of course.

[davepoth]

mdglen said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/...

Interesting article in The Independent today. Boils down to Boris can't be tory leader until he's a an MP. But he can't become an MP because to do so would be to declare his intention to go for the leader's job, which would effectively scupper his chances.

Looks like he shot himself in the foot going for the Mayor's job.

I don't agree with that article. Boris is so popular within the country that the Conservative party, quite apart from CMD, sees him as a positive asset. If he stands down as London mayor at the next election as he has said he will, they won't want to lose him from frontline politics so they'll put him in a safe seat in the commons. If Cameron has any sense he'll understand this, and work with Boris to plan the succession, rather than fighting against it.

[Fittster]

You boys are backing the wrong horse for next Blue tie in No. 10.

Rory Stewart is where my money would go.

Not that either of them (or a red tie) would achieve much, with the current system.

[martin84]

davepoth said:

I don't agree with that article. Boris is so popular within the country that the Conservative party, quite apart from CMD, sees him as a positive asset. If he stands down as London mayor at the next election as he has said he will, they won't want to lose him from frontline politics so they'll put him in a safe seat in the commons. If Cameron has any sense he'll understand this, and work with Boris to plan the succession, rather than fighting against it.

Surely part of that depends on the 2015 result. If the Conservatives lose then they may get rid of Cameron anyway. 10 years without delivering majority Government would hardly go down well.

[FourWheelDrift]

bigandclever said:

Considering he was born in New York, he could be a US President.

He could do both, he's beating Cameron and Romney at the moment.

He's campaigning hard in the US - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Av0-HGN0js

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Wednesday 1st August 15:38

[davepoth]

martin84 said:

Surely part of that depends on the 2015 result. If the Conservatives lose then they may get rid of Cameron anyway. 10 years without delivering majority Government would hardly go down well.

Absolutely. But I'm pretty sure that if Cameron is out, Boris will be in. Imagine him ripping Miliband apart in the Commons, it'll be marvellous.

[S2Mike]

Boris is " The Hero We All Need " He says what he thinks and that is often a little off-the-wall to be honest but he gets things done that he says he will. He is not afraid to stand up for what he believes, not just what folk want to hear.
Just what Britain needs to make us Great Britain Again...!
.
..
Go BORIS.

[martin84]

davepoth said:

Absolutely. But I'm pretty sure that if Cameron is out, Boris will be in. Imagine him ripping Miliband apart in the Commons, it'll be marvellous.

I have no doubt Boris would succeed Cameron, one look at the Cameron Ministry shows a distinct lack of other options. Two of them have been leader before, who else is there? Osborne? Hahahaha. Clarke? Hardly. Hammond? Smart enough bloke but too old and grey. Lansley? Not a chance. Hunt? Once upon a time but not anymore. Pickles? Gove? Do you see anybody there who could even run against Boris for the leadership?

Not totally sure he'd 'rip Miliband apart' though, Boris doesn't come across as a sharp, skilled debater. He's funny, because he's someone who has to verbalise every thought which enters his head so conversations with him take three hours.

[davepoth]

martin84 said:

I have no doubt Boris would succeed Cameron, one look at the Cameron Ministry shows a distinct lack of other options. Two of them have been leader before, who else is there? Osborne? Hahahaha. Clarke? Hardly. Hammond? Smart enough bloke but too old and grey. Lansley? Not a chance. Hunt? Once upon a time but not anymore. Pickles? Gove? Do you see anybody there who could even run against Boris for the leadership?

Not totally sure he'd 'rip Miliband apart' though, Boris doesn't come across as a sharp, skilled debater. He's funny, because he's someone who has to verbalise every thought which enters his head so conversations with him take three hours.

When it's back on again, watch the London Mayor's Question Time on BBC Parliament. It might change your thinking.

[turbobloke]

davepoth said:

martin84 said:

I have no doubt Boris would succeed Cameron, one look at the Cameron Ministry shows a distinct lack of other options. Two of them have been leader before, who else is there? Osborne? Hahahaha. Clarke? Hardly. Hammond? Smart enough bloke but too old and grey. Lansley? Not a chance. Hunt? Once upon a time but not anymore. Pickles? Gove? Do you see anybody there who could even run against Boris for the leadership?

Not totally sure he'd 'rip Miliband apart' though, Boris doesn't come across as a sharp, skilled debater. He's funny, because he's someone who has to verbalise every thought which enters his head so conversations with him take three hours.

When it's back on again, watch the London Mayor's Question Time on BBC Parliament. It might change your thinking.

Miliband worries his own team, he wouldn't worry Boris.

Long may Miliband 'lead' Labour.

[Soovy]

martin84 said:

davepoth said:

Absolutely. But I'm pretty sure that if Cameron is out, Boris will be in. Imagine him ripping Miliband apart in the Commons, it'll be marvellous.

I have no doubt Boris would succeed Cameron, one look at the Cameron Ministry shows a distinct lack of other options. Two of them have been leader before, who else is there? Osborne? Hahahaha. Clarke? Hardly. Hammond? Smart enough bloke but too old and grey. Lansley? Not a chance. Hunt? Once upon a time but not anymore. Pickles? Gove? Do you see anybody there who could even run against Boris for the leadership?

Not totally sure he'd 'rip Miliband apart' though, Boris doesn't come across as a sharp, skilled debater. He's funny, because he's someone who has to verbalise every thought which enters his head so conversations with him take three hours.

Disagree.

He's a great orator. He plays up to the "Boris" character, but he's really pin sharp.

[Ayahuasca]

Boris is currently playing the Prince Hal part, but to be Henry V requires a bit of cold hard steel - has he got that?

[martin84]

I don't think he plays up to anything to be honest, his father is quite a similar character. They can't both be acting.

[poprock]

Dangleboris

[mybrainhurts]

S2Mike said:

Boris is " The Hero We All Need " He says what he thinks and that is often a little off-the-wall to be honest but he gets things done that he says he will. He is not afraid to stand up for what he believes, not just what folk want to hear.
Just what Britain needs to make us Great Britain Again...!
.
..
Go BORIS.

I concur...

I strongly believe Boris shares my calling to invade France....

[B Huey]

Fittster said:

Rory Stewart is where my money would go.

I agree.

[MartinM]

Video here http://tinyurl.com/cmspwwq

[S2Mike]

mybrainhurts said:

S2Mike said:

Boris is " The Hero We All Need " He says what he thinks and that is often a little off-the-wall to be honest but he gets things done that he says he will. He is not afraid to stand up for what he believes, not just what folk want to hear.
Just what Britain needs to make us Great Britain Again...!
.
..
Go BORIS.

I concur...

I strongly believe Boris shares my calling to invade France....

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If thats what it takes . . . . Why Not, why should they have all the nice places round the Med, an all that sunshine.!!

[Ayahuasca]

B Huey said:

Fittster said:

Rory Stewart is where my money would go.

I agree.

To be fair he has been a bit quiet since 'Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?'

[tim0409]

Soovy said:

martin84 said:

davepoth said:

Absolutely. But I'm pretty sure that if Cameron is out, Boris will be in. Imagine him ripping Miliband apart in the Commons, it'll be marvellous.

I have no doubt Boris would succeed Cameron, one look at the Cameron Ministry shows a distinct lack of other options. Two of them have been leader before, who else is there? Osborne? Hahahaha. Clarke? Hardly. Hammond? Smart enough bloke but too old and grey. Lansley? Not a chance. Hunt? Once upon a time but not anymore. Pickles? Gove? Do you see anybody there who could even run against Boris for the leadership?

Not totally sure he'd 'rip Miliband apart' though, Boris doesn't come across as a sharp, skilled debater. He's funny, because he's someone who has to verbalise every thought which enters his head so conversations with him take three hours.

Disagree.

He's a great orator. He plays up to the "Boris" character, but he's really pin sharp.

Just finished reading a biography about Boris and he is anything but dim - he is amazingly bright and a very sharp debater. In terms of his intellect he is streets ahead of Millipead/Cameron etc. but covers it well which is why he is so popular. Any bets he will seek a safe Tory seat in 2014, hold a dual mandate for a year and then go for the leadership.