Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?
Poll: Do humans contribute to climate change substantially?
Total Members Polled: 599
Discussion
RobDickinson said:
I think man's significant impact is on biodiversity rather than the climate directly.
We have cut down so much forest, built on so much land, fished, hunted and generally poisoned, killed and restricted the animal kingdom that IMO it has a much reduced ability to cope with climate change.
Do you read the Daily Mail?We have cut down so much forest, built on so much land, fished, hunted and generally poisoned, killed and restricted the animal kingdom that IMO it has a much reduced ability to cope with climate change.
In the UK 2.27% of the land is built on, including roads, paths, building etc.
There's more woodland since the 20's.
Link.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096
GTIR said:
Do you read the Daily Mail?
In the UK 2.27% of the land is built on, including roads, paths, building etc.
There's more woodland since the 20's.
Link.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096
I'm talking on a global scale. The UK has lost all its top level predators , the landscape has been significantly changed. In the UK 2.27% of the land is built on, including roads, paths, building etc.
There's more woodland since the 20's.
Link.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096
GTIR said:
RobDickinson said:
I think man's significant impact is on biodiversity rather than the climate directly.
We have cut down so much forest, built on so much land, fished, hunted and generally poisoned, killed and restricted the animal kingdom that IMO it has a much reduced ability to cope with climate change.
Do you read the Daily Mail?We have cut down so much forest, built on so much land, fished, hunted and generally poisoned, killed and restricted the animal kingdom that IMO it has a much reduced ability to cope with climate change.
In the UK 2.27% of the land is built on, including roads, paths, building etc.
There's more woodland since the 20's.
Link.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096
But that same activity means you can also see the murk and crap we produce, particularly on a still day with an inversion layer. Obviously, I'm burning anything between 1 and 3 litres a minute of avgas in the process, and don't feel particularly guilty about it either.
Yes, we have an effect on the climate. No, we shouldn't feel bad about it, unless you want to live in a cave and lick the walls for entertainment.
RobDickinson said:
GTIR said:
Do you read the Daily Mail?
In the UK 2.27% of the land is built on, including roads, paths, building etc.
There's more woodland since the 20's.
Link.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096
I'm talking on a global scale. The UK has lost all its top level predators , the landscape has been significantly changed. In the UK 2.27% of the land is built on, including roads, paths, building etc.
There's more woodland since the 20's.
Link.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18623096
There's still a lot of land and if people choose to look at concrete and roads whilst reading the DM and sucking their teeth at the "Disappearing fields" then they can believe it.
You are just repeating what you hear and don't look at the facts for yourself.
IainT said:
RobDickinson said:
I'm talking on a global scale. The UK has lost all its top level predators , the landscape has been significantly changed.
Was just talking to the wife about this the other day, I think we should re-introduce wolves and bears back to Britain.GTIR said:
Significantly in what way exactly?
In that significant areas are now farmland, that native bush is hunted for anything breathing, that the oceans need to have quotas set to prevent over fishing, that rainforests disappear overnight. Species and diversity is under pressure from man as it stands, rapid climate change increases that pressure.
I'm not saying its all gone, just the wiggle room for nature is a lot tighter due to man.
IainT said:
RobDickinson said:
I'm talking on a global scale. The UK has lost all its top level predators , the landscape has been significantly changed.
Was just talking to the wife about this the other day, I think we should re-introduce wolves and bears back to Britain.
RobDickinson said:
GTIR said:
Significantly in what way exactly?
In that significant areas are now farmland, that native bush is hunted for anything breathing, that the oceans need to have quotas set to prevent over fishing, that rainforests disappear overnight. Species and diversity is under pressure from man as it stands, rapid climate change increases that pressure.
I'm not saying its all gone, just the wiggle room for nature is a lot tighter due to man.
Really? Maybe from poachers in Africa or huntin' season in the US/S.Africa.
Overfishing a certain species not the entire fish population. Who cares if Cod die out.
They have been saying the rainforests are disappearing overnight since the 70's.
There maybe species that are becoming extinct but there are also many that are being discovered.
Humans interfere in nature far too much. "Save the Panda's save that beached whale" No f
k em, let them die.RealSquirrels said:
i think species re-introduction would be good too. wolves and bears, definitely. they won't hurt people, only sheep.
Have you considered the 'benefits' to the animals themselves? There would almost certainly be people who - unless the animals were kept in secure, fenced off parks - would resent/fear their presence and poison, trap or shoot them.In addition, to say that bears would not hurt people is stretching confidence a fair bit. I used to believe that wolves did not attack people but there seem to be more, coherent, reports that they and even coyotes have, possibly increasingly, in the US and Russia. Bears definitely can be dangerous.
As a father I wouldn't be happy for my children to be walking around in countryside repopulated by either.
brenflys777 said:
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