Sir Wiggins

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Jasandjules

70,474 posts

235 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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It is difficult really, I no longer really understand the requirements to obtain a knighthood or some other form of honour.

crankedup

25,764 posts

249 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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These Honours have been devalued over the past years to the point of being simply baubles handed out.

Galsia

2,189 posts

196 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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crankedup said:
These Honours have been devalued over the past years to the point of being simply baubles handed out.
I agree. You don't deserve one just because you've won a sport at the Olympics. After all, that is what the gold medal is for...

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

223 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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In part, I agree with the sentiment of this thread.

On the other hand, Wiggins did manage to become the first Englishman to win the Tour de France. An Englishman, winning, in France. The first one to do it.

I think for managing that feat and being the first to do it, and probably pissing the French off, he deserves a gong of some sort. I would have thought an MBE or something would have sufficed, though.

turbobloke

107,388 posts

266 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Galsia said:
crankedup said:
These Honours have been devalued over the past years to the point of being simply baubles handed out.
I agree. You don't deserve one just because you've won a sport at the Olympics. After all, that is what the gold medal is for...
Also agree. People with £million sponsor deals, captains of industry with rank and high income, actors and actresses with fame and fortune, these people are not fit for honours, so perhaps bizarrely the unfit and devalued honours system fits them well. It doesn't matter how much charity work they do when bored with counting their houses and money, with so much more time on their hands they might as well do something to assauage their guilt. Honours are more fittingly awarded to people who perform a lifetime of dedication to menial tasks, and though peerages need to be removed completely it would be more fitting to see MBE, OBE, CBE awarded for 20, 30, 40 years' continuous and dedicated services to roadsweeping or public convenience toilet cleaning.

KCB/DCB and peerages are best kept for the UK equivalent of Mother Theresa and male equivalents (not necessarily religious orders but representing a lifetime of dedication to the needs of others on pittance pay).

Hoofy

77,445 posts

288 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Galsia said:
I agree. You don't deserve one just because you've won a sport at the Olympics. After all, that is what the gold medal is for...
Yep. It's very bizarre.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

249 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Pommygranite said:
rolleyes I was fking joking and more a comment that anyone who is famous gets one and few are more famous that paedo Jimmy right now.
Hilarious. You're so funny.

K12beano

20,854 posts

281 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Adrian W said:
Considering other knighthoods that get dished out, he should have been given a peeridge

The thing that annoys me is Cherrie Blair and Hector Sants getting awards, it also seems that if you are a civil servant you have a much higher chance of getting an award.
^^^ This yes just don't mention "Sir Hector"!! Grrrrrr

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

252 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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An excellent and well-deserved award for Wiggo. Real sporting star.

(Knighthoods should be automatic for anyone who beats the French at anything....) biggrin

mcelliott

8,911 posts

187 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Seems a bit OTT although he has had a fantastic year. Hopefully everything he's achieved has been legit - can't always tell with professional cyclists.

Pommygranite

14,319 posts

222 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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VX Foxy said:
Pommygranite said:
rolleyes I was fking joking and more a comment that anyone who is famous gets one and few are more famous that paedo Jimmy right now.
Hilarious. You're so funny.
It wasn't a stand up joke it was a facetious comment based on any level celebrity getting a Knighthood. Sorry you didn't get it given your approval is so important rolleyes


HoHoHo

15,150 posts

256 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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I don't understand the criteria anymore and has been suggested this simply highlights how they've been devalued.

I thought you had to make a positive contribution to society, not simply line the pockets of a political party or pedal or run faster than someone else.

rohrl

8,845 posts

151 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Sir Bradley, not Sir Wiggins.

Well deserved in my opinion but for winning the TdF rather than the Olympics.

Baryonyx

18,063 posts

165 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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I'm surprised he has gotten away with that considering he was caught tax dodging after the Olympics. He has a cheek.

Wills2

24,132 posts

181 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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crankedup said:
These Honours have been devalued over the past years to the point of being simply baubles handed out.
Yes it was so much better in the old days, where Lloyd George set up a shop and sold the the bloody things....

elster

17,517 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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mcelliott said:
Seems a bit OTT although he has had a fantastic year. Hopefully everything he's achieved has been legit - can't always tell with professional cyclists.
As he is a rather vocal section in the cycling fraternity against the use of drugs and the historic use of drugs in cycling, I find it unlikely.

HowMuchLonger

3,012 posts

199 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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elster said:
As he is a rather vocal section in the cycling fraternity against the use of drugs and the historic use of drugs in cycling, I find it unlikely.
So was Lance Armstrong.........

Dusty964

6,971 posts

196 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Have a look on the sky news interview and he would appear to be complete agreement- far more worthy people out there.



elster

17,517 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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HowMuchLonger said:
elster said:
As he is a rather vocal section in the cycling fraternity against the use of drugs and the historic use of drugs in cycling, I find it unlikely.
So was Lance Armstrong.........
I don't remember Lance Armstrong actively campaigning to get drugs and drugs cheats thrown out, but I may be wrong.

I know he campaigned on lots of other things, but I don't recall that.

Dusty964

6,971 posts

196 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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