Lion gets death penalty
Discussion
wolves_wanderer said:
You can't think of a single way in which it may be obvious that someone is still alive, short of a medical examination? Really?
sceanrio (a)my guess is the lion shred the said woman to bits more or less instantly with the old claw paw to the face/neck trick, or failing that body swipes let alone teeth and ripping the meat out which they have evolved to do to survive.
After which time maybe a quick response by armed officers of say 10minutes, lets say the lion had a bit of a rest for a few minutes only to discover a faint pulse then decided to do the job off with some more claw/teeth action.
My "guess" is the immediate scene was that of a dead body with a lions face full of blood.
and in the true spirit is of what is "right" the lion was shot dead or put down.
scenario (b)
The lion had just had its claws trimmed so its paw punch of 2tonne per pad only knocked the woman out.
The response was like lightening and they were there within the minute, to discover the lion just going in for the kill licking its lips, as it had cornered the woman who was now awake.
it looked up as the swot team shot it dead.
Unfortunately the woman died of shock so it was all in vain.
The only thing good to come out of it at least it will serve as a deterant to other lions if they act in this manner in the future that is what will happen to them.
The only big cat kill I've watched from start to finish was a cheetah on a gazelle, and that was still kicking 45 minutes later. The lion probably wasn't in much of a hurry, was presumably adequately fed (what with being in a zoo) and either had a pop at her for play or for later.
You have seen a cat play with a mouse? A friend of mine had one that would drop the mouse into the bath so he didn't need to keep an eye on it.
You have seen a cat play with a mouse? A friend of mine had one that would drop the mouse into the bath so he didn't need to keep an eye on it.
Bill said:
The only big cat kill I've watched from start to finish was a cheetah on a gazelle, and that was still kicking 45 minutes later. The lion probably wasn't in much of a hurry, was presumably adequately fed (what with being in a zoo) and either had a pop at her for play or for later.
You have seen a cat play with a mouse? A friend of mine had one that would drop the mouse into the bath so he didn't need to keep an eye on it.
the official interview at the end says:You have seen a cat play with a mouse? A friend of mine had one that would drop the mouse into the bath so he didn't need to keep an eye on it.
they arrived and find one of the workers in the big cat enclosure
they despatch (shot) the lion
and the worker is found to be deceased.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHibqp_uMnI
so my money is on scenario (a)
Streps said:
They should have tranquilized it instead of just shooting it.
Shame really.
^^ this Shame really.
as i thought it was state law that sedation (that is virtually instant) be kept on site with predatory big cat enclosures that would have been despatched far quicker than waiting for sherif roscoe to turn up...?
Lions breed well in captivity and I dont think thy are particularly endangered in the wild, amy more than the rest of the planet sharing it with us. So unless this animal was genetically important which I doubt, it's sad but not significant.
We have been inside a lion enclosure and the girls were able to pet cubs up to 9 months old with supervison. That is as big as you would feel comforatble with with trained help right there, how anyone could get in a cage with a full grown animal is hard to imagine.
We have been inside a lion enclosure and the girls were able to pet cubs up to 9 months old with supervison. That is as big as you would feel comforatble with with trained help right there, how anyone could get in a cage with a full grown animal is hard to imagine.
craig7l said:
sceanrio (a)
my guess is the lion shred the said woman to bits more or less instantly with the old claw paw to the face/neck trick, or failing that body swipes let alone teeth and ripping the meat out which they have evolved to do to survive.
After which time maybe a quick response by armed officers of say 10minutes, lets say the lion had a bit of a rest for a few minutes only to discover a faint pulse then decided to do the job off with some more claw/teeth action.
My "guess" is the immediate scene was that of a dead body with a lions face full of blood.
and in the true spirit is of what is "right" the lion was shot dead or put down.
scenario (b)
The lion had just had its claws trimmed so its paw punch of 2tonne per pad only knocked the woman out.
The response was like lightening and they were there within the minute, to discover the lion just going in for the kill licking its lips, as it had cornered the woman who was now awake.
it looked up as the swot team shot it dead.
Unfortunately the woman died of shock so it was all in vain.
The only thing good to come out of it at least it will serve as a deterant to other lions if they act in this manner in the future that is what will happen to them.
The rest of your post is cobblers but that bit made me think of a crack team of school Millhouses shooting big cats, which made me smile - so thank you.my guess is the lion shred the said woman to bits more or less instantly with the old claw paw to the face/neck trick, or failing that body swipes let alone teeth and ripping the meat out which they have evolved to do to survive.
After which time maybe a quick response by armed officers of say 10minutes, lets say the lion had a bit of a rest for a few minutes only to discover a faint pulse then decided to do the job off with some more claw/teeth action.
My "guess" is the immediate scene was that of a dead body with a lions face full of blood.
and in the true spirit is of what is "right" the lion was shot dead or put down.
scenario (b)
The lion had just had its claws trimmed so its paw punch of 2tonne per pad only knocked the woman out.
The response was like lightening and they were there within the minute, to discover the lion just going in for the kill licking its lips, as it had cornered the woman who was now awake.
it looked up as the swot team shot it dead.
Unfortunately the woman died of shock so it was all in vain.
The only thing good to come out of it at least it will serve as a deterant to other lions if they act in this manner in the future that is what will happen to them.
craig7l said:
Streps said:
They should have tranquilized it instead of just shooting it.
Shame really.
^^ this Shame really.
as i thought it was state law that sedation (that is virtually instant) be kept on site with predatory big cat enclosures that would have been despatched far quicker than waiting for sherif roscoe to turn up...?
You've posted a lot of emotive crap on this thread, if there was any chance no matter how small that women was alive then they had a duty to get her out of their as quickly as possible. It's sad that the lion died, but at the end of the day it's an animal and in our society it comes 2nd to the needs of a human, even a stupid one.
SMGB said:
Stupid humans breed well and I dont think thy are particularly endangered, amy more than the rest of the planet sharing it with us. So unless this woman was genetically important which I doubt given she had stolled into a Lion enclosure on her own, it's sad but not significant.
EFA.
king about with big cats: Don't.Those stats are mad. I wonder if they're all imported animals or if they include native US cats.
I don't think this story is as simple as human + lion = death. Considering cats are lazy sods for most of the day I would have thought a big cat is as likely to sit on its arse and watch somebody as they are to go and attack them.
I guess this was just a case of bad timing and the cat was bored and looking for something to do. I can't imagine it felt threatened by a puny human.
Tragedy aside, if it's your time to go then it's not a bad one. I'd be happy with my surviving family and friends answering the question, 'so how did durbs die?' with, 'he was killed by a lion.'
I don't think this story is as simple as human + lion = death. Considering cats are lazy sods for most of the day I would have thought a big cat is as likely to sit on its arse and watch somebody as they are to go and attack them.
I guess this was just a case of bad timing and the cat was bored and looking for something to do. I can't imagine it felt threatened by a puny human.
Tragedy aside, if it's your time to go then it's not a bad one. I'd be happy with my surviving family and friends answering the question, 'so how did durbs die?' with, 'he was killed by a lion.'
Liokault said:
"authorities were trying to determine what might have provoked the animal to maul her."
After great deal of time and money on an open public enquiry into the above question, the answer can now be summarized as:
"Because Lion"
I have actually been attacked by a lion in South Africa. The instinct is kill from an early age.After great deal of time and money on an open public enquiry into the above question, the answer can now be summarized as:
"Because Lion"
It was around 5 months old and about the size of collie dog. I was stroking one crouched down when I heard a lady behind say oh look it's stalking him. Next thing I get hit by this lion , they are solid a lot heavier than a same size dog would be, as it landed on me it clamped its jaws around my neck teeth on throat and at the back of the neck. Claws in my chest and back.
It was just playing and not hurting me I was laughing at first, then after a few moments I thought right time to get it off so I tried to push it off. That's when it started gripping harder and it's teeth started digging in my throat. I stood up and it gripped tighter they really are heavy. It got bored and let go. I was unscathed apart from a few scratches on my chest and back. The shirt had bought it though.
The guy in the park reckoned that in another month it would have taken my head off and that they were just about to take them out of the petting enclosure as at 5 months they were getting too old to be in there and wouldn't be playing much longer.
And the truth of the matter is... drum roll please... she was cleaning it's cage whilst it was supposedly locked up in a smaller cage, the door hadn't been properly secured, it escaped and killed her.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/coroner-lions-v...
However, I assume this news article to be inaccurate as most people on PH have figured out that she actually chose to go into a cage with a lion voluntarily and that Darwinism was therefore at work...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/coroner-lions-v...
However, I assume this news article to be inaccurate as most people on PH have figured out that she actually chose to go into a cage with a lion voluntarily and that Darwinism was therefore at work...
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