Tilbury - 35 found in container
Discussion
Frik said:
craste said:
My god they way they reported this on the news it was like oh my god how awful for them , hope they are OK.
So you don't think it's a little unpleasant to be stuck in a container without food or water for days?It was their choice to get into the container, my wallet is wishing it was more than 1.....not PC I know but we all know they'll all be allowed to stay/go missing before they're deported
This case shows the extraordinary risks that people are prepared to take to get into this country, in the knowledge that if they set foot on British soil, they are highly unlikely ever to be deported.
The government needs to take some very tough decisions in order to reduce the so-called 'pull factors' which are encouraging countless millions of people from outside the EU to try to come here.
Illegal immigrants should be immediately deported, as in Australia.
Access to all state benefits should be removed.
Access to legal aid should be removed.
Access to NHS medical treatment should be given in life-threatening emergencies only.
The black economy should be much more strongly regulated, in order to prevent both exploitation of workers, and the undermining of the wages of those entitled to live and work in the UK.
This is just the start. Unless the government is much tougher and much more radical, we will see many more desperate people dying in shipping containers.
The government needs to take some very tough decisions in order to reduce the so-called 'pull factors' which are encouraging countless millions of people from outside the EU to try to come here.
Illegal immigrants should be immediately deported, as in Australia.
Access to all state benefits should be removed.
Access to legal aid should be removed.
Access to NHS medical treatment should be given in life-threatening emergencies only.
The black economy should be much more strongly regulated, in order to prevent both exploitation of workers, and the undermining of the wages of those entitled to live and work in the UK.
This is just the start. Unless the government is much tougher and much more radical, we will see many more desperate people dying in shipping containers.
If you watch programs like UK BORDER FORCE you will note that many people get deported and immediatley try to come back becuase where they are from (e.g Iraq) is much worse than here.
I think I can say with some certainty the resources we need to put into border control are not going to be anywhere near enough.
I;ve actually met one of the peopel on the show and I think the gist was that because they couldn;t actually always lock up the illegals til deportation (i.e they were often let go as not enough prison/detention space) they could never actually deport all the ones they went to the effort of catching.
I think I can say with some certainty the resources we need to put into border control are not going to be anywhere near enough.
I;ve actually met one of the peopel on the show and I think the gist was that because they couldn;t actually always lock up the illegals til deportation (i.e they were often let go as not enough prison/detention space) they could never actually deport all the ones they went to the effort of catching.
When illegals come in via commercial means like this, make sure they're OK then send them back on the next available vessel from the same company to the port of origination. Along with a bill for the health care and other expenditure.
Commercial firms will soon tighten their own security when faced with massive bills, and originating countries will be a little more careful when the problem gets sent straight back.
Not nice that someone died, but personal choices were made.
Commercial firms will soon tighten their own security when faced with massive bills, and originating countries will be a little more careful when the problem gets sent straight back.
Not nice that someone died, but personal choices were made.
craste said:
I do hope we sort them all out with houses and benefits.
My god they way they reported this on the news it was like oh my god how awful for them , hope they are OK.
Send 'em back!
We are such a soft touch!
Is everybody else really annoyed with what's happening in this country?
We are a laughing stock!
Oh how very PH of you..... never mind, it's hardly surprising - a crass remark from someone called Craste..... My god they way they reported this on the news it was like oh my god how awful for them , hope they are OK.
Send 'em back!
We are such a soft touch!
Is everybody else really annoyed with what's happening in this country?
We are a laughing stock!
CoolHands said:
anonymous said:
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outside my local selco (builders merchant) there are approx 50 manual labourers every morning. Most if not all of them are illegals. Are ukbf down there every morning picking them up? Of course not.CoolHands said:
anonymous said:
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that naivety is why nothing in this country is done to tackle what is obvious to 90% of the public.Please keep us updated with the outcome
Frik said:
craste said:
My god they way they reported this on the news it was like oh my god how awful for them , hope they are OK.
So you don't think it's a little unpleasant to be stuck in a container without food or water for days?Willy Nilly said:
Do you think an iScotland will have much trouble with people in shipping containers?
Not at all.... in fact we'll be welcoming them in, rather than the usual knee-jerk reaction, from the usual right-wing reactionaries. I suggest you avail yourself of the NIESR report on our aging population and read up on it's findings. I posted the report in full some time ago in The truth about immigration topic. We have 50 years to start planning to accommodate many more immigrants to increase the working age populace.... You might not like what you read - but you need to face facts.Before some blowhard chirps up about how will we be able to accommodate them all - we don't need to have them all come at once - but we need a level of immigration in excess of the 50's and 60's to actually pay the taxes that support our elderly. I for one don't want to have to work into my 80's - I'd much prefer to retire around 65 like most people do at present. We need to start planning for this unavoidable event. Or we can start shipping off our Nannas and Grandads on a one way trip to Switzerland to visit Dignitas. Sorry Nanna, you've reached your time....off you toddle.......
pcvdriver said:
Willy Nilly said:
Do you think an iScotland will have much trouble with people in shipping containers?
Not at all.... in fact we'll be welcoming them in, rather than the usual knee-jerk reaction, from the usual right-wing reactionaries. I suggest you avail yourself of the NIESR report on our aging population and read up on it's findings. I posted the report in full some time ago in The truth about immigration topic. We have 50 years to start planning to accommodate many more immigrants to increase the working age populace.... You might not like what you read - but you need to face facts.Before some blowhard chirps up about how will we be able to accommodate them all - we don't need to have them all come at once - but we need a level of immigration in excess of the 50's and 60's to actually pay the taxes that support our elderly. I for one don't want to have to work into my 80's - I'd much prefer to retire around 65 like most people do at present. We need to start planning for this unavoidable event. Or we can start shipping off our Nannas and Grandads on a one way trip to Switzerland to visit Dignitas. Sorry Nanna, you've reached your time....off you toddle.......
Willy Nilly said:
pcvdriver said:
Willy Nilly said:
Do you think an iScotland will have much trouble with people in shipping containers?
Not at all.... in fact we'll be welcoming them in, rather than the usual knee-jerk reaction, from the usual right-wing reactionaries. I suggest you avail yourself of the NIESR report on our aging population and read up on it's findings. I posted the report in full some time ago in The truth about immigration topic. We have 50 years to start planning to accommodate many more immigrants to increase the working age populace.... You might not like what you read - but you need to face facts.Before some blowhard chirps up about how will we be able to accommodate them all - we don't need to have them all come at once - but we need a level of immigration in excess of the 50's and 60's to actually pay the taxes that support our elderly. I for one don't want to have to work into my 80's - I'd much prefer to retire around 65 like most people do at present. We need to start planning for this unavoidable event. Or we can start shipping off our Nannas and Grandads on a one way trip to Switzerland to visit Dignitas. Sorry Nanna, you've reached your time....off you toddle.......
davepoth said:
Willy Nilly said:
pcvdriver said:
Willy Nilly said:
Do you think an iScotland will have much trouble with people in shipping containers?
Not at all.... in fact we'll be welcoming them in, rather than the usual knee-jerk reaction, from the usual right-wing reactionaries. I suggest you avail yourself of the NIESR report on our aging population and read up on it's findings. I posted the report in full some time ago in The truth about immigration topic. We have 50 years to start planning to accommodate many more immigrants to increase the working age populace.... You might not like what you read - but you need to face facts.Before some blowhard chirps up about how will we be able to accommodate them all - we don't need to have them all come at once - but we need a level of immigration in excess of the 50's and 60's to actually pay the taxes that support our elderly. I for one don't want to have to work into my 80's - I'd much prefer to retire around 65 like most people do at present. We need to start planning for this unavoidable event. Or we can start shipping off our Nannas and Grandads on a one way trip to Switzerland to visit Dignitas. Sorry Nanna, you've reached your time....off you toddle.......
davepoth said:
Willy Nilly said:
pcvdriver said:
Willy Nilly said:
Do you think an iScotland will have much trouble with people in shipping containers?
Not at all.... in fact we'll be welcoming them in, rather than the usual knee-jerk reaction, from the usual right-wing reactionaries. I suggest you avail yourself of the NIESR report on our aging population and read up on it's findings. I posted the report in full some time ago in The truth about immigration topic. We have 50 years to start planning to accommodate many more immigrants to increase the working age populace.... You might not like what you read - but you need to face facts.Before some blowhard chirps up about how will we be able to accommodate them all - we don't need to have them all come at once - but we need a level of immigration in excess of the 50's and 60's to actually pay the taxes that support our elderly. I for one don't want to have to work into my 80's - I'd much prefer to retire around 65 like most people do at present. We need to start planning for this unavoidable event. Or we can start shipping off our Nannas and Grandads on a one way trip to Switzerland to visit Dignitas. Sorry Nanna, you've reached your time....off you toddle.......
By the way Dave, I had you in the "f
k off we're full camp" - shows what assumptions can do eh? : ;-) :Edited by pcvdriver on Sunday 17th August 12:17
speedyguy said:
CoolHands said:
anonymous said:
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outside my local selco (builders merchant) there are approx 50 manual labourers every morning. Most if not all of them are illegals. Are ukbf down there every morning picking them up? Of course not.CoolHands said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
that naivety is why nothing in this country is done to tackle what is obvious to 90% of the public.Please keep us updated with the outcome
I've got my own job to do properly instead.
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