Shocking Lack of Proper Violence!
Discussion
KANEIT said:
The decent people who are losing their livelihoods, who should feel angry, cannot afford to go protest and cannot afford to risk the criminal repercussions and are too busy trying to hold onto their jobs or find new jobs. The nasty scum at the bottom of the pile, who could do some serious damage, have been placated by the benefits system and are happy to sit at home pissing it up a wall or stabbing unfortunate strangers. Politics and the economy doesn't figure in their estimations.
That is absolutely spot on! There's plenty I'd like to protest about that has left me out of work with no prospects and it's almost all down to government policy - however I'd be too scared of committing a criminal offence and being labelled a racist (visas for Indian computer programmers while I'm on the scrapheap).Good post though!
Don't worry guys, whilst the media's backs were turned some brutality has been occuring:
If that doesn't sate you then just have a nose at this footage from the 2008 RNC;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MhnI_VsHgA
If only we were so well versed in violent oppression of opponents of the state, that'd learn 'em..
Twitter said:
Here, at least, it really does seem like pumped police looking for a fight. Protesters trying to sit down on road getting pounded.
by paul__lewis at 4:30 PM
by paul__lewis at 4:30 PM
Twitter said:
Efforts to beat protesters back along queen vic st, toward the bank england, have resulted in v nasty scnes
by paul__lewis at 4:39 PM
by paul__lewis at 4:39 PM
Twitter said:
..Crowd here mainly students and hippy types - not the troublemaker crowd - but some of them have been seriously hurt.
by paul__lewis at 4:41 PM
by paul__lewis at 4:41 PM
Twitter said:
Meanwhile the police are marching into climate camp. It is horrible.
by bibivanderzee at 7:12 PM
by bibivanderzee at 7:12 PM
Twitter said:
The police just laying into the crowd with their truncheons.
by bibivanderzee at 7:15 PM
sourceby bibivanderzee at 7:15 PM
If that doesn't sate you then just have a nose at this footage from the 2008 RNC;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MhnI_VsHgA
If only we were so well versed in violent oppression of opponents of the state, that'd learn 'em..
Edited by Clammy on Thursday 2nd April 00:14
I did see a protestor about midday or one oclock with a golf club or similar taking swings at Police, normal Police as well, without shields, and all they did was stand there and take 3 or 4 hits!!!! Charge the hippy fker, drag him out of the pack of protestors and beat some fking sense into the workshy !
Twitter said:
Meanwhile the police are marching into climate camp. It is horrible.
by bibivanderzee at 7:12 PM
My word! by bibivanderzee at 7:12 PM
Wouldn't I like to send my legions of stormtroopers into the "climate camp"!!!
A load of soap dodgers committing anarchistic acts on the basis of The Great Lie. Justification for police brutality don't come any better than this!
Thread after thread I cannot believe what I am reading. I simply cannot fathom how many boring, armchair loving, whiskey sipping, seemingly state-loving whiners there are on here.
Yet another thread asking to see the Police do more against the protesters. Some people are so blinkered in their left wing / right wing 'camps' that they fail to see that these protesters are actually putting 2 big fingers upto the state and control over the individual whilst they 'riot'.
Surely you right wing nut jobs (i.e. if you were as blindly left-wing as you are right-wing, you would be just as wacko as some of the protesters seen today) can't even see the big picture because you're so obsessed with 'hating the lefties'.
Are you all 'for' the state re-nationalising the banks? Are you 'for' the Police to have the population under complete control?
Are you against the people exercising their right to tell the government and other 'population controllers' to fk off?
Sounds pretty left wing to me. Sounds like you all love your government compliance.
Yet another thread asking to see the Police do more against the protesters. Some people are so blinkered in their left wing / right wing 'camps' that they fail to see that these protesters are actually putting 2 big fingers upto the state and control over the individual whilst they 'riot'.
Surely you right wing nut jobs (i.e. if you were as blindly left-wing as you are right-wing, you would be just as wacko as some of the protesters seen today) can't even see the big picture because you're so obsessed with 'hating the lefties'.
Are you all 'for' the state re-nationalising the banks? Are you 'for' the Police to have the population under complete control?
Are you against the people exercising their right to tell the government and other 'population controllers' to fk off?
Sounds pretty left wing to me. Sounds like you all love your government compliance.
Edited by Shay HTFC on Thursday 2nd April 00:24
I think you have the wrong end of the stick. I think the hypocrisy of the protesters is the annoying thing. How many are on benefits? How many have jobs? How many drove down to protest about the environment, how many destroyed things, whilst demanding peace, and so on. The protesters come out of the woodwork merely to protest.
Shay HTFC said:
Thread after thread I cannot believe what I am reading. I simply cannot fathom how many boring, armchair loving, whiskey sipping, seemingly state-loving whiners there are on here.
Yet another thread asking to see the Police do more against the protesters. Some people are so blinkered in their left wing / right wing 'camps' that they fail to see that these protesters are actually putting 2 big fingers upto the state and control over the individual whilst they 'riot'.
Surely you right wing nut jobs (i.e. if you were as blindly left-wing as you are right-wing, you would be just as wacko as some of the protesters seen today) can't even see the big picture because you're so obsessed with 'hating the lefties'.
Are you all 'for' the state re-nationalising the banks? Are you 'for' the Police to have the population under complete control?
Are you against the people exercising their right to tell the government and other 'population controllers' to fk off?
Sounds pretty left wing to me. Sounds like you all love your government compliance.
I think you've made your mind up before asking questions to find out why, which makes replying in any serious way a waste of time. Have you considered taking up politics?Yet another thread asking to see the Police do more against the protesters. Some people are so blinkered in their left wing / right wing 'camps' that they fail to see that these protesters are actually putting 2 big fingers upto the state and control over the individual whilst they 'riot'.
Surely you right wing nut jobs (i.e. if you were as blindly left-wing as you are right-wing, you would be just as wacko as some of the protesters seen today) can't even see the big picture because you're so obsessed with 'hating the lefties'.
Are you all 'for' the state re-nationalising the banks? Are you 'for' the Police to have the population under complete control?
Are you against the people exercising their right to tell the government and other 'population controllers' to fk off?
Sounds pretty left wing to me. Sounds like you all love your government compliance.
Edited by Shay HTFC on Thursday 2nd April 00:24
Shay HTFC said:
Are you against protest?
Or are you one of those ones that thinks sitting around quietly in a cordoned off area miles away from anything important is the way to make your voice heard?
Not at all... I am also not the type of person to throw bricks through windows, etc. Are you?Or are you one of those ones that thinks sitting around quietly in a cordoned off area miles away from anything important is the way to make your voice heard?
350 said:
You are a little hysterical now, aren't you.
I'm just trying to see where you draw the line.I assume you wouldn't just sit down, but would indeed get out and 'smash up some st' in protest.
So what it takes to get some people angry enough to commit crime in protest is just a mark on a scale. Who decides when that mark is reached?
Edited by Shay HTFC on Thursday 2nd April 00:47
Shay HTFC said:
I'm just trying to see where you draw the line.
I assume you wouldn't just sit down, but would indeed get out and 'smash up some st' in protest.
So what it takes to get some people angry enough to commit crime in protest is just a mark on a scale. Who decides when that mark is reached?
We are nowhere near that line. Those people today are largely hypocrites and pretenders. They remind me of The Prodigy, all 'fk the law' rebellious bullst to start with then ten years later they are raking it in.I assume you wouldn't just sit down, but would indeed get out and 'smash up some st' in protest.
So what it takes to get some people angry enough to commit crime in protest is just a mark on a scale. Who decides when that mark is reached?
Oh without a doubt most people in this 'riot' were lentil munching students, but what about the poll tax riots?
I know it won't be popular on here, but those were people who were genuinely angry at the government and felt the need to make their voice very much known.
Fair play to them.
People on here seem to just be anti-protest, which I cannot understand.
I know it won't be popular on here, but those were people who were genuinely angry at the government and felt the need to make their voice very much known.
Fair play to them.
People on here seem to just be anti-protest, which I cannot understand.
When has any government ever appeased rioters? All it does is bring in more laws to prevent all protests whether they are peaceful or not. You think that smashing up some innocent guy's shop is going to force the government to agree with you without reprocussions, what about the people who's property was destroyed so you could make a point that only a 14-year old would think is workable?
Most of the scum involved are there because they aren't allowed to go to football matches anymore.
Most of the scum involved are there because they aren't allowed to go to football matches anymore.
Shay HTFC said:
350 said:
You are a little hysterical now, aren't you.
I'm just trying to see where you draw the line.I assume you wouldn't just sit down, but would indeed get out and 'smash up some st' in protest.
So what it takes to get some people angry enough to commit crime in protest is just a mark on a scale. Who decides when that mark is reached?
Edited by Shay HTFC on Thursday 2nd April 00:47
These people are there for something to do, they don't actually care about the subject.
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