Mexican Drugs Gangsters Do Not Mess About...

Mexican Drugs Gangsters Do Not Mess About...

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Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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blindswelledrat said:
KingHerald.
The problem with things like a members-only website is that you are surrounded by like-minded people and you begin to believe your mindset is normal because seemingly so many other people feel the same. The reality is, though, is that a handful of people from the billions in the world are your fellow members.
Meanwhile, out in the real world every single person is telling you that it is fked up and you have mental issues. Every single person.
Not one person here is agreeing with you.
The fact that you believe that enjoying watching someone getting their heart cut out is equivalent to watching a horror film, but better, is a perfect example of psychotic tendencies. A complete absence of empathy for the victim of the video and getting off on watching it.

You think you are the one talking sense here, but to all of us you are no different to someone on a members-only child porn website laughing at us because we are not in the real-world and that it is completely normal. (Before you have a hissy fit I am not likening you to a paedo, I am making an extreme point because if their was a paedo boasting on this thread you would be utterly horrified. That's the only analogy I think I can use to make you see how we are all looking at you)
Your analogy fits. That KH thinks it's fine because he's not wking over the videos is disturbing in itself.

King Herald

23,501 posts

218 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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blindswelledrat said:
KingHerald.
The problem with things like a members-only website is that you are surrounded by like-minded people and you begin to believe your mindset is normal because seemingly so many other people feel the same. The reality is, though, is that a handful of people from the billions in the world are your fellow members.
Meanwhile, out in the real world every single person is telling you that it is fked up and you have mental issues. Every single person.
Not one person here is agreeing with you.
The fact that you believe that enjoying watching someone getting their heart cut out is equivalent to watching a horror film, but better, is a perfect example of psychotic tendencies. A complete absence of empathy for the victim of the video and getting off on watching it.

You think you are the one talking sense here, but to all of us you are no different to someone on a members-only child porn website laughing at us because we are not in the real-world and that it is completely normal. (Before you have a hissy fit I am not likening you to a paedo, I am making an extreme point because if there was a paedo boasting on this thread you would be utterly horrified. That's the only analogy I think I can use to make you see how we are all looking at you)
Thank you for your concern, I will go seek help later. yes Probably after lunch, bit busy now. Hamburger Hill is playing on Netflix, some right horrible stuff on there. So realistic.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

234 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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You can try and make light of it all you want, but you are that person that everyone else knows is mentally ill, and who believes he is normal as a result of his mental illness.
Everyone is telling you and you are putting your fingers in your ears shouting "Lalalalala. Not listening. I know I am fine.Completely normal"

chow pan toon

12,415 posts

239 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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blindswelledrat said:
You can try and make light of it all you want, but you are that person that everyone else knows is mentally ill, and who believes he is normal as a result of his mental illness.
Everyone is telling you and you are putting your fingers in your ears shouting "Lalalalala. Not listening. I know I am fine.Completely normal"
He can probably tell you just how many fingers can be stuffed in an ear.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

138 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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blindswelledrat said:
KingHerald.

The fact that you believe that enjoying watching someone getting their heart cut out is equivalent to watching a horror film, but better, is a perfect example of psychotic tendencies. A complete absence of empathy for the victim of the video and getting off on watching it.
Small correction. You probably mean sociopathic rather than psychotic, they're different things. A straight lack of empathy just means that after the initial curiosity you'd get bored of it; you need sadistic drives to carry on which may or may not involve a lack of empathy. I suspect having empathy actually enhances the feeling if you enjoy watching. You might not enjoy it enough to need the Kleenex but if you go back for more you probably liked it a bit.

An easy analogy most people can latch onto - it's like watching granny/furry/scat/(insert deviant type here) pron. If you don't get off to it then either disgust or boredom will make you turn it off.

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Get sectioned hehe

I'd hazard a guess that KH doesn't like these movies at all but he exposes himself to them as thats what the real world is. Not sure why people would have a problem with that

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Jonesy23 said:
Hasn't the 'people who watch videos but don't do stuff vs. people who do stuff but don't watch videos' argument been done before?

Usually around trying to argue that watching or being in possession of certain specialist highly illegal material doesn't actually make you a bad person like those other perverts.
It’s all relative isn’t it.

I expect on the torture watching website, they’ll have some group they think are worse so they’re OK.

KH seems to think there’s something wrong with us for thinking he’s odd.

Perhaps they’re all there talking about how they’re the ones alive and know what’s going on and we on the outside are all a bit dead inside?

What other stuff do people watch in there KH, is it just people being murdered or do you watch animals being tortured? What about things like rape? Is there a section for that?

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Aphex said:
Get sectioned hehe

I'd hazard a guess that KH doesn't like these movies at all but he exposes himself to them as thats what the real world is. Not sure why people would have a problem with that
The way that watching this stuff is subtly advanced as a badge of courage; an ability to recognise and see "the real world" instead of hiding behind one's eyelids, is absolutely pathetic.

The precise same argument can be made for paedophilia. Yet no one outside a very small and select group does. Why is that?

Joey Ramone

2,151 posts

127 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Jonesy23 said:
Hasn't the 'people who watch videos but don't do stuff vs. people who do stuff but don't watch videos' argument been done before?

Usually around trying to argue that watching or being in possession of certain specialist highly illegal material doesn't actually make you a bad person like those other perverts.
Maybe, but who's to decide what is right or wrong if, for example, KH watches these things but leads an entirely normal life outside of that while one of his disgusted accusers on PH - entirely for argument's sake, I emphasise - is a violent (albeit so far un-apprehended) rapist?

bstb3

4,161 posts

160 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Aphex said:
Get sectioned hehe

I'd hazard a guess that KH doesn't like these movies at all but he exposes himself to them as thats what the real world is. Not sure why people would have a problem with that
Well, lets just say you are right. I mean, I don't understand why you would need to expose yourself to this to know the depravity that humanity can reach, not least given the last century, but maybe so. So you look at it once, and yup, its shocking and horrible and that's the real world.

But then you go back, because presumably you have somehow forgotten. Then again. Then it starts to lose it's impact. Then to make it easier, you sign up to a members only club so it's more accessible and, lets be honest, they have the best stuff. Then, after a while, it starts to lose it's impact. But still you haven't had enough real world, enough depravity. What next? Then you buy a video camera...

Not saying KH is going to go the whole hog here, but if you can't see why people would be concerned then you might be missing something.

Justifying what has been discussed could just as easily be applied to people watching Pedo / Animal abuse stuff too, just to see. What's the harm, right?

Joey Ramone

2,151 posts

127 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that if you can stomach this stuff, for whatever reason, but completely compartmentalise it and not let it affect your behaviour in the real world, then that's less a cause for concern than those who would consider such viewing habits as disgusting and indicative of mental illness but who themselves display real-world anti-social tendencies that actually impact other people's lives.

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Greg66 said:
The way that watching this stuff is subtly advanced as a badge of courage; an ability to recognise and see "the real world" instead of hiding behind one's eyelids, is absolutely pathetic.

The precise same argument can be made for paedophilia. Yet no one outside a very small and select group does. Why is that?
I don't know that anyone other than the disturbed that watches gore videos for enjoyment though. Isn't it the same as showing peoples lungs on the side of cigarette packages?

I was shown a horrific set of pictures from a car crash that slowed me down in my teens, I feel like there is good that can come of being exposed to these things.

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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bstb3 said:
Well, lets just say you are right. I mean, I don't understand why you would need to expose yourself to this to know the depravity that humanity can reach, not least given the last century, but maybe so. So you look at it once, and yup, its shocking and horrible and that's the real world.

But then you go back, because presumably you have somehow forgotten. Then again. Then it starts to lose it's impact. Then to make it easier, you sign up to a members only club so it's more accessible and, lets be honest, they have the best stuff. Then, after a while, it starts to lose it's impact. But still you haven't had enough real world, enough depravity. What next? Then you buy a video camera...

Not saying KH is going to go the whole hog here, but if you can't see why people would be concerned then you might be missing something.

Justifying what has been discussed could just as easily be applied to people watching Pedo / Animal abuse stuff too, just to see. What's the harm, right?
I agree, if you are going out looking for the next greatest gore video then you have a problem. I just don't think most people would look at it that way. Or maybe I'm just hopeful

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Joey Ramone said:
I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that if you can stomach this stuff, for whatever reason, but completely compartmentalise it and not let it affect your behaviour in the real world, then that's less a cause for concern than those who would consider such viewing habits as disgusting and indicative of mental illness but who themselves display real-world anti-social tendencies that actually impact other people's lives.
I don’t really follow your point.

Are you saying someone who watches torture videos but doesn’t hurt people is less harmful to society than someone who hurts people? If that’s the case then that’s correct.

What’s the connection though? Are people on here that think watching this stuff is a bit sick more likely to be rapists or something?

Badda

2,706 posts

84 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Aphex said:
I was shown a horrific set of pictures from a car crash that slowed me down in my teens, I feel like there is good that can come of being exposed to these things.
Very good point. I used to regularly flay people alive and remove their still beating hearts in front of them till I watched a video of it and then had a lightbulb moment.

Aphex

2,160 posts

202 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Badda said:
Very good point. I used to regularly flay people alive and remove their still beating hearts in front of them till I watched a video of it and then had a lightbulb moment.
Ramsay Bolton, is that you?

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Aphex said:
I agree, if you are going out looking for the next greatest gore video then you have a problem. I just don't think most people would look at it that way. Or maybe I'm just hopeful
Actually joining a members only gore website that hosts these films sounds a bit like going out looking for the next greatest gore video to me.

1) your mate sends you a link to something horrible, you watch it because you’re curious and regret it afterwards is normal behaviour.

2) Joining a gore website, just to watch gore films with sections on torture and then watching lots of them, is something different.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Aphex said:
I was shown a horrific set of pictures from a car crash that slowed me down in my teens, I feel like there is good that can come of being exposed to these things.
So having watched this video, you are ever more determined than previously not to cross a Mexican drug cartel, are you? And that's the "good" that's come of being exposed to the video, is it?

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

234 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Badda said:
Aphex said:
I was shown a horrific set of pictures from a car crash that slowed me down in my teens, I feel like there is good that can come of being exposed to these things.
Very good point. I used to regularly flay people alive and remove their still beating hearts in front of them till I watched a video of it and then had a lightbulb moment.
biglaugh

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Badda said:
Aphex said:
I was shown a horrific set of pictures from a car crash that slowed me down in my teens, I feel like there is good that can come of being exposed to these things.
Very good point. I used to regularly flay people alive and remove their still beating hearts in front of them till I watched a video of it and then had a lightbulb moment.
Yep, me and my friends were thinking of creating a drug gang specialising in elaborate and gruesome torture but after joining torturepeoplelive.com we’ve decided against it,