Clocks going 2 hours forward?

[AJI]

Oakey said:

Now there's an oxymoron, daylight... at night time!

The horror of it!

Happens in mid-summer currently anyways no?

What time is your interpretation of when it is night time? Are you basing this on just when the sun sets? Or at a specific average time of year when it usually goes dark...eg.6pm?
If the latter then its daylight during night-time most of the summer time. If on the previous then in mid-summer the sun sets at about 10pm...yet its daylight until about 10.30-11pm...so the oxymoron exists already under current conditions.

[Oakey]

AJI said:

Stictly speaking everybody's clocks do not need to be changed, its not really a rule is it?
Everybody is well within their right to live by whatever time they decide it is.
Many people (not all) can agree a start time with their boss and arrange their day around that I suppose.
Many supermarkets are 24h, garages are usually 24h, so many people could actually live a normal life within their own time.

For me, I'd just like it if the government set the 'national' time to what I'd like my personal time to be, and what they are suggesting fits quite nicely.




(now, awaits single sentence typically PH condecending reply from some)

You live in Cumbria, so it'll get darker even later for you than it does for me. Tell us, what the hell will you be doing in daylight at 00:30am - 1:00am?

[Chicken Chaser]

Love how this has turned into another North vs South debate with suggestions of cutting around London and the South East to separate them from the rest of us.

[Strangely Brown]

Chicken Chaser said:

Love how this has turned into another North vs South debate with suggestions of cutting around London and the South East to separate them from the rest of us.

I'd just like to point out that I am about as far south as you can get and, in case you hadn't noticed, I am NOT in favour of shifting to CET. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'd like to see BST dropped too and people given more flexibility to organise their day.

[Oakey]

Chicken Chaser said:

Love how this has turned into another North vs South debate with suggestions of cutting around London and the South East to separate them from the rest of us.

But ultimately, that's what it comes down to, isn't it? Those in the South want an extra hour in the evening in Summer for 'outdoor activities' (ie, posting on PH in their garden), and an extra hour of daylight in the evenings when they finish work in the Winter.

This comes at the cost of those of us in the North having longer evenings where the sun doesn't go down until some ridiculous time in the Summer and doesn't come up until well after people have started work in the Winter.

The sad part is, if most of these people haven't got the inclination to get up earlier in the Summer to make the most out of current existing daylight, then it's unlikely they're really going to utilise the extra hour in the evening either.

[stuttgartmetal]

Much prefer the thought of longer evenings, and darker mornings, year round really.
Nice for a late Pimms sitting out on the lawn of an evening.
The Icelandic seem to accept their daylight anomalies without complaint, why is it the Scotch don't?

[Strangely Brown]

stuttgartmetal said:

Much prefer the thought of longer evenings, and darker mornings, year round really.
Nice for a late Pimms sitting out on the lawn of an evening.
The Icelandic seem to accept their daylight anomalies without complaint, why is it the Scotch don't?

Exactly the same question can be asked of you.

[Strangely Brown]

stuttgartmetal said:

Much prefer the thought of longer evenings, and darker mornings, year round really.
Nice for a late Pimms sitting out on the lawn of an evening.
The Icelandic seem to accept their daylight anomalies without complaint, why is it the Scotch don't?

The irony is strong in this one.

[Oakey]

stuttgartmetal said:

Much prefer the thought of longer evenings, and darker mornings, year round really.
Nice for a late Pimms sitting out on the lawn of an evening.
The Icelandic seem to accept their daylight anomalies without complaint, why is it the Scotch don't?

Maybe because Iceland is further North and no amount of pissing around with the clocks can alter the fact they're unable to escape most of the Sun during the Summer? Likewise, in Winter, they get about 4-5hours of daylight before it's dark again. Whether they 'accept it without complaint' is another matter.

ETA: There's also the fact Iceland only has a population of about 318,000, all within pretty much the same area.

Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 23 February 13:07

[billzeebub]

as somebody who is rarely in bed before 2am or up before 10 am I think it is a cracking idea. Its sure to get the vote of students too!!

[Oakey]

billzeebub said:

as somebody who is rarely in bed before 2am or up before 10 am I think it is a cracking idea. Its sure to get the vote of students too!!

Occupation: Civil Service

Says it all really

[Johnnytheboy]

Oakey said:

But ultimately, that's what it comes down to, isn't it? Those in the South want an extra hour in the evening in Summer for 'outdoor activities' (ie, posting on PH in their garden), and an extra hour of daylight in the evenings when they finish work in the Winter.

Cobblers. I'm sat in Dorset and I want 12 months of GMT.

[thinfourth2]

anonymous said:

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Frankly the only sensible thing that has been said

[mp3manager]

thinfourth2 said:

anonymous said:

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Frankly the only sensible thing that has been said

But wouldn't that mean in some parts of the country it'll be snowing in the 'Summertime'?

[Johnnytheboy]

I've always found it slightly odd that the clock change time is assymetric already, i.e. it changes ~2 months before the winter solstice but ~3 months after.

[thinfourth2]

stuttgartmetal said:

Much prefer the thought of longer evenings, and darker mornings, year round really.
Nice for a late Pimms sitting out on the lawn of an evening.
The Icelandic seem to accept their daylight anomalies without complaint, why is it the Scotch don't?

I'll give you a clue

Its those in the deep south screaming like spoilt brats that the sun doesn't rise and set to their own personnel timetable

[Johnnytheboy]

thinfourth2 said:

I'll give you a clue

Its those in the deep south screaming like spoilt brats that the sun doesn't rise and set to their own personnel timetable

My staff don't determine my timetable, thanks very much.

[Funkateer]

anonymous said:

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I tend to agree, perhaps with a slight refinement..

Funkateer said:

Given that the length of day is about the same now as it was a the end of October, then why aren't we back on BST now? Clocks should have changed back about Valentine's day. Seems daft to have to wait till the end of March.

Just wish I could start/finish work earlier!