The 'No to the EU' campaign
Discussion
don4l said:
Do you think that Labour are a right wing party?
Is Cameron's conservative party right wing ?
NP&E seems to be full of left wing nutters these days.
It's all great fun, isn't it?
Labour are further to the right of the BNP. So one of two things has happened there. Either Labour are "ultras" or the old "Nazism isn't socialism" thing might be wrong...Is Cameron's conservative party right wing ?
NP&E seems to be full of left wing nutters these days.
It's all great fun, isn't it?
Telegraph reports that several EU nations plan to gang up on Cameron to completely water down his 'reforms' and to stop the possibility of contagion across the EU.
France in particular seems adamant that there should be no veto, even by a majority of states, over the Euro zone, and water down the protection for the City of London. Belgium is concerned that his proposals reduce Brussels' powers and any reform should increase them. It's clear that there has been a comparing of notes and the only rule forward is more Europe, Ever Closer Union.
Well that tells you all you need to know. Anyone who has ever said the EU needs reform should now be voting for Leave, unless they're the steaming hypocrites one suspects is the case.
Vote Leave, you know it makes sense. If you vote Remain, watch out, the UK will be comprehensively rogered.
France in particular seems adamant that there should be no veto, even by a majority of states, over the Euro zone, and water down the protection for the City of London. Belgium is concerned that his proposals reduce Brussels' powers and any reform should increase them. It's clear that there has been a comparing of notes and the only rule forward is more Europe, Ever Closer Union.
Well that tells you all you need to know. Anyone who has ever said the EU needs reform should now be voting for Leave, unless they're the steaming hypocrites one suspects is the case.
Vote Leave, you know it makes sense. If you vote Remain, watch out, the UK will be comprehensively rogered.
alfie2244 said:
Ironically I am now, apparently,placed where Lab were in 70's when I voted for them....they seem to have moved rightwards and upwards since and away from me........... not forgetting this is a load of b
ks of course. 
That's really interesting that we seem to be tending toward a neo liberal fascist state... Perhaps Donal Trump should join in with British politics?ks of course. FiF said:
Telegraph reports that several EU nations plan to gang up on Cameron to completely water down his 'reforms' and to stop the possibility of contagion across the EU.
France in particular seems adamant that there should be no veto, even by a majority of states, over the Euro zone, and water down the protection for the City of London. Belgium is concerned that his proposals reduce Brussels' powers and any reform should increase them. It's clear that there has been a comparing of notes and the only rule forward is more Europe, Ever Closer Union.
Well that tells you all you need to know. Anyone who has ever said the EU needs reform should now be voting for Leave, unless they're the steaming hypocrites one suspects is the case.
Vote Leave, you know it makes sense. If you vote Remain, watch out, the UK will be comprehensively rogered.
The PM's excursions and machinations are clearly seen to be a sham. France in particular seems adamant that there should be no veto, even by a majority of states, over the Euro zone, and water down the protection for the City of London. Belgium is concerned that his proposals reduce Brussels' powers and any reform should increase them. It's clear that there has been a comparing of notes and the only rule forward is more Europe, Ever Closer Union.
Well that tells you all you need to know. Anyone who has ever said the EU needs reform should now be voting for Leave, unless they're the steaming hypocrites one suspects is the case.
Vote Leave, you know it makes sense. If you vote Remain, watch out, the UK will be comprehensively rogered.
Definitely vote Out. Eurodrones aren't bothering to conceal their intent, the UK's future within the EU is bleak and subservient.
More crap coming down the line http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment...
Can't see why May is on the fence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35592457 and there's a starting off point for a UK future, and create a new alliance for economy and trade, if we need one at all, centred on our shared history and culture - with the US, Canada,Aus and NZ, add maybe India, Singapore.
Can't see why May is on the fence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35592457 and there's a starting off point for a UK future, and create a new alliance for economy and trade, if we need one at all, centred on our shared history and culture - with the US, Canada,Aus and NZ, add maybe India, Singapore.
woowahwoo said:
These graphs are hilariously stupid.
Quite, I came out as Labour '72, just like the poster earlier. 
Might have to let that gem out in the Senior Common Room, might endear me to the assorted steaming lefties who think I bang to attention and snap off a regulation perfect salute to a portrait of Maggie every morning.Northern Munkee said:
More crap coming down the line http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment...
Can't see why May is on the fence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35592457 and there's a starting off point for a UK future, and create a new alliance for economy and trade, if we need one at all, centred on our shared history and culture - with the US, Canada,Aus and NZ, add maybe India, Singapore.
I assume they're all convinced that we will remain. If we were to vote leave, any of them with career ambitions would do well to be the one who came down on the leave side.Can't see why May is on the fence http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35592457 and there's a starting off point for a UK future, and create a new alliance for economy and trade, if we need one at all, centred on our shared history and culture - with the US, Canada,Aus and NZ, add maybe India, Singapore.
woowahwoo said:
FiF said:
Quite, I came out as Labour '72, just like the poster earlier.
Might have to let that gem out in the Senior Common Room, might endear me to the assorted steaming lefties who think I bang to attention and snap off a regulation perfect salute to a portrait of Maggie every morning.
Anarchist/libertarian must mean something entirely different to those who create these algorithms. Might have to let that gem out in the Senior Common Room, might endear me to the assorted steaming lefties who think I bang to attention and snap off a regulation perfect salute to a portrait of Maggie every morning.Is PHds a bastion of old Labour?
Looks like yet another nail in the EU coffin has been driven home, in that the latest EU directive is for all towns and cities in the EU member states countries are to impose congestion charging for drivers wishing to visit such places.
As if many towns here are not already struggling to attract shoppers and visitors (or will these congestion charge zones just be enlarged around towns and cities to engulf as many out of town shopping centres as possible, Perhaps given the size of the UK relative to other EU countries they will just make they whole UK a congestion charging zone.
Just how on Earth do they propose to set boundaries for congestion charging? What will congestion charging do to the transport of goods?
the Sinister thing is being told the EU has no `Plan B' for a UK exit from the EU. Does this mean that no matter what WE vote, we are not going to be allowed to get out of there?
As if many towns here are not already struggling to attract shoppers and visitors (or will these congestion charge zones just be enlarged around towns and cities to engulf as many out of town shopping centres as possible, Perhaps given the size of the UK relative to other EU countries they will just make they whole UK a congestion charging zone.
Just how on Earth do they propose to set boundaries for congestion charging? What will congestion charging do to the transport of goods?
the Sinister thing is being told the EU has no `Plan B' for a UK exit from the EU. Does this mean that no matter what WE vote, we are not going to be allowed to get out of there?
FiF said:
Quite, I came out as Labour '72, just like the poster earlier.
I came out as:Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
Looking at this in comparison with the 2015 election I have to wonder why I voted Conservative:
Either I grossly misunderstood their policies or that test is b
ks.IainT said:
FiF said:
Quite, I came out as Labour '72, just like the poster earlier.
I came out as:Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
Looking at this in comparison with the 2015 election I have to wonder why I voted Conservative:
Either I grossly misunderstood their policies or that test is b
ks.IainT said:
FiF said:
Quite, I came out as Labour '72, just like the poster earlier.
I came out as:Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.38
Looking at this in comparison with the 2015 election I have to wonder why I voted Conservative:
Either I grossly misunderstood their policies or that test is b
ks.ks then we must be twins separated at birth.Though it puts paid to orange_grass' claim that we are all rabid right wingers in here....even us confirmed Kippers
CaptainSlow said:
They don't have a "Plan B" for anything. Very rarely is there a "Plan A". Look at the migrant crisis for example. Totally disorganised chaos.
I sincerely hope you are right, but actions of the EU over the years do make me worry, that we will have any say in the way our country is run, or whether we will be `permitted' to leave the whole corrupt stinking edifice the EU has become.
alfie2244 said:
If not bks then we must be twins separated at birth.
Though it puts paid to orange_grass' claim that we are all rabid right wingers in here....even us confirmed Kippers
We could both have been completely duped by spin from our political 'elite' though... None of the main parties really represent me on the authoritarian scale - that I'm aware of, it's the left-right split that I struggle with on the graph.ks then we must be twins separated at birth.Though it puts paid to orange_grass' claim that we are all rabid right wingers in here....even us confirmed Kippers
IainT said:
alfie2244 said:
If not bks then we must be twins separated at birth.
Though it puts paid to orange_grass' claim that we are all rabid right wingers in here....even us confirmed Kippers
We could both have been completely duped by spin from our political 'elite' though... None of the main parties really represent me on the authoritarian scale - that I'm aware of, it's the left-right split that I struggle with on the graph.ks then we must be twins separated at birth.Though it puts paid to orange_grass' claim that we are all rabid right wingers in here....even us confirmed Kippers
Federal EU superstate.......doomed I tell you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSXdE8M-9Y4
Edited by alfie2244 on Wednesday 17th February 11:16
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