UK General Election 2015

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Vaud

50,777 posts

156 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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l354uge said:
I cant see anything happening apart from a Labour-SNP coalition.

I want to cry....
Despite Labour saying that won't happen?

Labour minority with vote by vote agreement, maybe.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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l354uge said:
I cant see anything happening apart from a Labour-SNP coalition.

I want to cry....
you're not the only one...

Last night was the most depressing think I have ever seen.

it's like living in al alternative reality, apparently austerity is bad and the solution is to spend spend spend, the deficit and national debt don't matter.

we are the next Greece.






turbobloke

104,212 posts

261 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Vaud said:
l354uge said:
I cant see anything happening apart from a Labour-SNP coalition.

I want to cry....
Despite Labour saying that won't happen?

Labour minority with vote by vote agreement, maybe.
It would sound like an attempt to hoodwink the electorate, though Labour would never try such a thing.

Vaud

50,777 posts

156 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Hmm.

What would be the bargaining tool for a coalition for keeping Trident? A second referendum for devolution in 2017?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Vaud said:
Hmm.

What would be the bargaining tool for a coalition for keeping Trident? A second referendum for devolution in 2017?
Independence with no referendum

Nationalists do not like democracy as s like me don't vote correctly

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Guam said:
Meanwhile what should concern us most in these discussions is this little revelation imho!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3042683/Th...

Maybe the much despised idea of ID cards might have helped with this problem if electronic voter validation was available at the polling booth.
It will mostly be those who aren't overly bright or interested who will lose the right to vote

Not overly bothered

ralphrj

3,543 posts

192 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Vaud said:
Hmm.

What would be the bargaining tool for a coalition for keeping Trident? A second referendum for devolution in 2017?
I caught an interview with an SNP spokesman this morning on Radio 4 where the Trident issue was raised.

The SNP spokesman said that whilst the SNP would never vote for the renewal of nuclear weapons there was little they could do in reality as the Conservatives could vote with Labour to push it through.

Possibly it would happen like this:

Labour minority government with SNP support pass a Finance Act (i.e. a budget) with no mention of Trident.

Labour minority government then bring a separate act specifically on the subject of Trident and it is passed with Tory support.

There would have to be some fudge to provide funding for Trident outside of the usual budget/Finance Act but I imagine something could be cobbled together.

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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ralphrj said:
Vaud said:
Hmm.

What would be the bargaining tool for a coalition for keeping Trident? A second referendum for devolution in 2017?
I caught an interview with an SNP spokesman this morning on Radio 4 where the Trident issue was raised.

The SNP spokesman said that whilst the SNP would never vote for the renewal of nuclear weapons there was little they could do in reality as the Conservatives could vote with Labour to push it through.

Possibly it would happen like this:

Labour minority government with SNP support pass a Finance Act (i.e. a budget) with no mention of Trident.

Labour minority government then bring a separate act specifically on the subject of Trident and it is passed with Tory support.

There would have to be some fudge to provide funding for Trident outside of the usual budget/Finance Act but I imagine something could be cobbled together.
If I were Sturgeon, I'd insist on a Trident vote before the budget and make support of the budget conditional on paying of the Trident vote. That's the kind of scummy arrangement that awaits us.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Guam said:
McWigglebum4th said:
It will mostly be those who aren't overly bright or interested who will lose the right to vote

Not overly bothered
Your just hoping they are all Neds so that the SNP lose a million votes be honest smile
Yep

I am firmly in the belief if you don't contribute then you should not have the right to vote

pingu393

7,902 posts

206 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Bluebarge said:
It says "Produce of Scotland, Norway and Chile". Nothing to worry about. <Wibble> smile

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

229 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Have received the usual barrage of flyers through the door from each of my local candidates. If I'm really honest, they are all wet sponges and none of them seem worthy of my vote.

Trouble is, I don't really want to spoil my vote as it may be useful. Oh well. Decisions, decisions eh.

In relation to the local candidates. They all seem useless to me, so maybe a spoiled paper is the way forward with them.

Foppo

2,344 posts

125 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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I like to see a Labour/S.N.P Coalition.Labour and Tory have no strength in Scotland.Not another 5 years of Tory/Lib ruling this Island please.

Scotland will be independent in the future and whilst we are at it a United Ireland wouldn't be to bad..smile

eatcustard

1,003 posts

128 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Foppo said:
I like to see a Labour/S.N.P Coalition.Labour and Tory have no strength in Scotland.Not another 5 years of Tory/Lib ruling this Island please.

Scotland will be independent in the future and whilst we are at it a United Ireland wouldn't be to bad..smile
Labour/SNP will destroy England and cost us south of the border ££££££££££, but it would kill off Labour in the long run

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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eatcustard said:
Foppo said:
I like to see a Labour/S.N.P Coalition.Labour and Tory have no strength in Scotland.Not another 5 years of Tory/Lib ruling this Island please.

Scotland will be independent in the future and whilst we are at it a United Ireland wouldn't be to bad..smile
Labour/SNP will destroy England and cost us south of the border ££££££££££, but it would kill off Labour in the long run
Which is the main aim of the SNP

To wreck the economy in england

Strocky

2,662 posts

114 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/clubb...

Very statesmenlike from Panface, if the state is North Korea laugh

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Strocky said:
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/clubb...

Very statesmenlike from Panface, if the state is North Korea laugh
Isn't north korea what the SNP model scotland on


Now try and get this into your tiny weeny mind

THE TREATMENT OF JOURNALISTS BY THE TORY PARTY IN SCOTLAND IS IDENTICAL TO THE TREATMENT THEY WOULD GET IN ENGLAND

Do you understand this

SCOTLAND IS NOT A SPECIAL CASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know you belive that everyone hates Scotland

But that is not the case

But keep going and the majority of england will hate you


Targarama

14,637 posts

284 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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If the Conservatives get more seats at the election, do they get first dibs at forming a coalition? Then if they can't Labour gets a chance to try and form a coalition?

confused_buyer

6,659 posts

182 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Targarama said:
If the Conservatives get more seats at the election, do they get first dibs at forming a coalition? Then if they can't Labour gets a chance to try and form a coalition?
Technically speaking, as they are still in Government then yes. Cameron has to go to the Palace and say that he can't form a Government and recommend to HMQ that she ask Mr Miliband to do so for Miliband to get his technical go.

Cameron can still remain PM and current Ministers in their post until they decide they can't form a Government (as Brown did in 2010) or push on regarldless and get voted down in a vote of confidence.



anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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This sums up my current views pretty well:

"Politics is now a shouting match of absurd personalities"

loafer123

15,462 posts

216 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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eatcustard said:
Labour/SNP will destroy England and cost us south of the border ££££££££££, but it would kill off Labour in the long run
That's what we thought last time but voters are too stupid to remember.