UKIP - The Future - Volume 4
Discussion
BGARK said:
It always annoys me that those we entrust to the Nation's well being fail to show the other side of scenarios like this. It suits them not to do so of course. Those are negatives which, if we as a Nation had more nouse in the shark infested commercial world, could mean all those jobs we "export" and sustain, as well as other benefits could all be ours, not theirs.For far too long the EU and other parts of the world are taking us for the Mugs we are and taking full advantage. It's not simply a Government thing. The people are often in self-inflicted mode and seemingly unaware or care not.
Unless we adopt a more effective stance on these and many other things, others will take full advantage of the mugs. Farage has highlighted these negative aspects and across a wide range of the electorate, falls on stoney ground and all that.
The EU and the ROTW will continue to take full advantage of any mugs... Human Nature and all that in the shark infested commercial world we always seem to be the only ones playing far too fairly within. Thus, our fate is both obvious and deserved and others will continue to form queues to take full advantage of..
That's one of the many reasons why come May 7th, I will waste my vote on UKIP. Yes wasted vote as I have done on the other major parties time and again in the past.
Our local candidate is in Camberley town centre today. I dropped by just in case he needed some moral support. I'm pleased to say that he didn't need any.
He says that most of the public have been quite positive, which is good news.
Mind you, he is very realistic about his prospects. Surrey Heath is one of the safest seats in the country.
He says that most of the public have been quite positive, which is good news.
Mind you, he is very realistic about his prospects. Surrey Heath is one of the safest seats in the country.
Axionknight said:
Art0ir said:
Maybe someone on Tweetboook could ask some UKIP meps why they supported this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32529283
http://www.votewatch.eu/en/term8-discharge-2013-eu...
Most of 'em didn't bother.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32529283
http://www.votewatch.eu/en/term8-discharge-2013-eu...
my local candidate is a local man educated locally worked locally and is a well educated well respected man.
Labour hold the seat because of boundary fudging so it a Labour seat and by some margin so unless the conservative man gets anywhere near close in the betting i will vote UKIP which was always my 1st choice but I would do anything to stop a labour led Government.
Labour hold the seat because of boundary fudging so it a Labour seat and by some margin so unless the conservative man gets anywhere near close in the betting i will vote UKIP which was always my 1st choice but I would do anything to stop a labour led Government.
don4l said:
Mind you, he is very realistic about his prospects. Surrey Heath is one of the safest seats in the country.
Likewise just to the south of you in Surrey South West it's a guaranteed Tory hold, but our UKIP candidate Mark Webber is getting out and about and unlike the Conservatives actually turns up to the local hustings. As a PHer it's seems rude not to vote for a candidate with such a name.Meanwhile, according to the LibDem candidate for Thurrock, only extreme right wingers want an EU referendum. So like those extreme right wingers in the Green Party eh?
Another good performance from Suzanne Evans later in that video: https://youtu.be/_P7j_mNvYM4?t=3m58s. She's definitely getting better and better at TV interviews. The Conservative there comes across as particularly panicky about the UKIP threat.
JustAnotherLogin said:
Interesting comment:
Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
Because He's realised milliband will do what the unions and SNP tell him to do???? Just like Cameron will do what big business tells him to do!!!!Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
JustAnotherLogin said:
Interesting comment:
Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
He has underestimated the working class UKIP swing and the die hard head in sand Tory boys are proving more tricky to un-brainwash. Probably should have concentrated resources in certain areas to reflect this. Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
JustAnotherLogin said:
Interesting comment:
Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
Why he thought that he'd offer one? I could go on about how Ed.M did say there would be one in the event of any future powers being ceded to Brussels (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/12/ed-miliband-eu-referendum-business-leaders) and how the issue of Europe is of interest to many voters (though not seen as important as domestic affairs of course).Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
But all I'll say is this: We're talking about Ed Milliband here, the man would sell his own granny to get a sniff of power, so telling a few porkies, changing your tune and going back on your convictions one way or another (has since ruled a vote out), is par for the course.
JustAnotherLogin said:
Interesting comment:
Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
He gave Miliband too much credit for having the balls to offer a referendum ?Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
Guam said:
Watched Farage on Marr and Murnaghan this morning
Mar went for the homophobic card
Murnaghan for the racist one
It is getting pretty tiresome now
Thought Farage handled both pretty well
He has a point when he states at four days out they go for this stuff rather than focus on policies
No matter not long now and all this nonsense will be over
Of course he handled it well, they wheel out the same racist,homophbic bks every time they interview him.Mar went for the homophobic card
Murnaghan for the racist one
It is getting pretty tiresome now
Thought Farage handled both pretty well
He has a point when he states at four days out they go for this stuff rather than focus on policies
No matter not long now and all this nonsense will be over
How easy would it be to win a fight if your opposition only do the 1 move over and over again.
Halb said:
If Farage fails in Thanet, I think UKiPs should go with that Preston/Bolton bloke (I forget which) over Nuttall as leader...if they wanna stay on tack that is.
I can't help thinking that even if Farage resigns, he'll be back as leader as soon as you can say "Extraordinary General Meeting". Mr_B said:
JustAnotherLogin said:
Interesting comment:
Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
He gave Miliband too much credit for having the balls to offer a referendum ?Mr Farage, on a campaign visit in Ramsgate, Kent, said the one thing he had got wrong in the election campaign was thinking Mr Miliband would move towards offering a referendum on EU membership.
Wonder why he thought that
Jogon, not sure what the hell question you were answering when you quoted me, sure as **** wasn't anything I asked. Those voices in your head giving you problems?
JustAnotherLogin said:
Yeah, did anyone else expect such a thing? I certainly didn't. Wondered why Farage did.
Jogon, not sure what the hell question you were answering when you quoted me, sure as **** wasn't anything I asked. Those voices in your head giving you problems?
I imagine it was more the gamble for Millipede hemorrhaging voters wanting out of the EU vs. making a stand...Jogon, not sure what the hell question you were answering when you quoted me, sure as **** wasn't anything I asked. Those voices in your head giving you problems?
Guam said:
No matter not long now and all this nonsense will be over
Sadly, that's when the real nonsense will begin.Now for something completely different.
We're still doomed....
Looking on the bright side...
Rare opportunity for a Sunday afternoon brief chat to the three other members of the family. Rare for all four to be together.
Looks like three for Nigel's outfit and one still undecided. The one undecided is a dreaded landlord so I wonder if he'd vote for the two Eds with whatever plans they would have for such landlord mercenaries... Never mind the quality of tenants, let's go for the nasty Landlords...
Youz cudnee mek it op Lad..
Sorted.
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