Man arrested after baby girl is punched in a supermarket.
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If I saw a grown man punch a toy doll whilst it was with its 'parent' (girl), that alone would warrant thinking this guy should be picked up so they could do some health checks on him at least. for his own good as much as anything.
Having a 2 year old girl she REALLY thinks these dolls of hers are real and it disturbs her to see me grab them and chuck them off the sofa let alone some bloke doing it... so no excuse even to think it was a doll, still weird and still needs professional help..
Having a 2 year old girl she REALLY thinks these dolls of hers are real and it disturbs her to see me grab them and chuck them off the sofa let alone some bloke doing it... so no excuse even to think it was a doll, still weird and still needs professional help..
Greg66 said:
Well done for finding her. You deserve each other.
Perhaps you two could spend the afternoon at the playground kicking the s
t out of 6 year olds for a laugh. They're pretty robust by that age, so your japes can be full on. No one will mind.
Awesome. Now I am a child beater and agree with child molesting Perhaps you two could spend the afternoon at the playground kicking the s
t out of 6 year olds for a laugh. They're pretty robust by that age, so your japes can be full on. No one will mind. 
You guys....thank f
k the world isn't full of people like you lot. 
Just look how an open handed tap to wake a sleeping doll as a joke has turned in to a 'media moguls wet dream' witch-hunt.
If only you were able to think objectively rather than trying to think of abusive / funny things to say.
I did laugh by the way!
Edit to add I forgot to enter the word 'PUNCHED' in bold....may aswell just put DROP-KICKED I guess.
Talking of which...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cft0pr7lIWA
Edited by Digby on Saturday 26th November 22:20
tommunster10 said:
Having a 2 year old girl she REALLY thinks these dolls of hers are real and it disturbs her to see me grab them and chuck them off the sofa let alone some bloke doing it... so no excuse even to think it was a doll, still weird and still needs professional help..
So you know the actions of throwing them will upset your Daughter, but you still do it, and it's this guy making his first and only mistake such as this in life that needs help?Good grief man, feeling sorry for this guys mistake has led to some of the unhinged on here suggesting I should beat up six year olds and molest kids.
What the hell will they say to you?!
Log off and hide your I.P address etc, now!!
Nanook said:
Digby said:
I am. He sounds like the kind of person who is trying to put this guy behind bars.
I'm not and never would be in this situation.
Oh and there are several people here who can see this for what it is, just read the comments. There are thousands more if you look on other forums / web pages.
I'm very far from being alone in feeling this way.
Even the law itself seems to have been a tad merciful.
I don't believe he should have went to jail. I don't believe the courts were 'merciful', they were sensible.I'm not and never would be in this situation.
Oh and there are several people here who can see this for what it is, just read the comments. There are thousands more if you look on other forums / web pages.
I'm very far from being alone in feeling this way.
Even the law itself seems to have been a tad merciful.
Edited by Digby on Saturday 26th November 09:37
But I can't understand why you're defending the guy. And I can't get my head around the fact that you state if some complete random came up to you in a supermarket, and punched your 5 day old child on the head, you'd just say "Oh, you're so silly!", shake his hand, and be done with it. That's not a normal reaction. And if you have a wife, I'm pretty certain she wouldn't respond in the same manner.
I have a 14 month old daughter, I spend all my spare time tickling her, kicking balls at her, throwing her on the bed and generally antagonising her playfully, which has from time to time included some doll throwing, punching and general horseplay. In turn she kicks me, climbs on me, throws stuff at me and has bitten the head off one doll, so I'm sorry to say, the dolls/teddies are usually the ones that get it worst.
Alpinestars said:
Digby said:
A weird sense of humour, granted, but not one we haven't seen before. It backfired.
Do you believe he thought the baby was a doll? Or do you think he thought it would be funny to hit a real baby?The question is, have you ever played with a child by use of its toys?
And when playing with those toys, do you treat them as delicate human beings incase they are real babies, or do you treat them like, well, toys.
e8_pack said:
It's quite clear he thought the baby was a doll, owned by the 6yr old sat next to it in the trolly.
The question is, have you ever played with a child by use of its toys?
And when playing with those toys, do you treat them as delicate human beings incase they are real babies, or do you treat them like, well, toys.
Given children watch and learn from adults "punching a baby" isn't he sort of pretend games any sane person would want to do. The question is, have you ever played with a child by use of its toys?
And when playing with those toys, do you treat them as delicate human beings incase they are real babies, or do you treat them like, well, toys.
I can picture the scenario - day after you've been playing "punch the baby" school call you your child needs to be collected he/she has just struck another child & oddly stated you were playing that game yesterday and she was showing her/his friend. Social care will be notified.
e8_pack said:
Nanook said:
Digby said:
I am. He sounds like the kind of person who is trying to put this guy behind bars.
I'm not and never would be in this situation.
Oh and there are several people here who can see this for what it is, just read the comments. There are thousands more if you look on other forums / web pages.
I'm very far from being alone in feeling this way.
Even the law itself seems to have been a tad merciful.
I don't believe he should have went to jail. I don't believe the courts were 'merciful', they were sensible.I'm not and never would be in this situation.
Oh and there are several people here who can see this for what it is, just read the comments. There are thousands more if you look on other forums / web pages.
I'm very far from being alone in feeling this way.
Even the law itself seems to have been a tad merciful.
Edited by Digby on Saturday 26th November 09:37
But I can't understand why you're defending the guy. And I can't get my head around the fact that you state if some complete random came up to you in a supermarket, and punched your 5 day old child on the head, you'd just say "Oh, you're so silly!", shake his hand, and be done with it. That's not a normal reaction. And if you have a wife, I'm pretty certain she wouldn't respond in the same manner.
I have a 14 month old daughter, I spend all my spare time tickling her, kicking balls at her, throwing her on the bed and generally antagonising her playfully, which has from time to time included some doll throwing, punching and general horseplay. In turn she kicks me, climbs on me, throws stuff at me and has bitten the head off one doll, so I'm sorry to say, the dolls/teddies are usually the ones that get it worst.
We set fire to my "Flame on" Human Torch Fantastic Four doll in the 70's. I suppose I should be sectioned immediately!
e8_pack said:
It's quite clear he thought the baby was a doll, owned by the 6yr old sat next to it in the trolly.
The question is, have you ever played with a child by use of its toys?
And when playing with those toys, do you treat them as delicate human beings incase they are real babies, or do you treat them like, well, toys.
The question was specifically for the poster I asked it to. The question is, have you ever played with a child by use of its toys?
And when playing with those toys, do you treat them as delicate human beings incase they are real babies, or do you treat them like, well, toys.
But, how is it clear he thought it was a toy? The judge didn't believe that to be the case. Why do you, with a lot less evidence?
Alpinestars said:
The question was specifically for the poster I asked it to.
But, how is it clear he thought it was a toy? The judge didn't believe that to be the case. Why do you, with a lot less evidence?
The judge was no doubt just sending a message and trying to be sensible - not uncommon.But, how is it clear he thought it was a toy? The judge didn't believe that to be the case. Why do you, with a lot less evidence?
And can we now drop the media favoured / witch-hunters special "Punch" wording ?
He saw a young girl hanging over the "doll", asked if he should wake it up and flicked it with his finger in an attempt to make the young girl laugh.
I would rather see the family fined for wasting police time.
Digby said:
The judge was no doubt just sending a message and trying to be sensible - not uncommon.
And can we now drop the media favoured / witch-hunters special "Punch" wording ?
He saw a young girl hanging over the "doll", asked if he should wake it up and flicked it with his finger in an attempt to make the young girl laugh.
I would rather see the family fined for wasting police time.
The judge said it was "implausible" that he thought it was a doll. Don't you believe the judge's judgement or do you have evidence the Judge didn't have?And can we now drop the media favoured / witch-hunters special "Punch" wording ?
He saw a young girl hanging over the "doll", asked if he should wake it up and flicked it with his finger in an attempt to make the young girl laugh.
I would rather see the family fined for wasting police time.
Alpinestars said:
The judge said it was "implausible" that he thought it was a doll. Don't you believe the judge's judgement or do you have evidence the Judge didn't have?
"Earlier, the judge accepted that the attack had been an isolated incident and ‘completely out of character’."Given he was shown it wasn't a punch, on this emotive topic, he was being sensible and sending a message maybe? Not uncommon.
Unless, of course, you accept that you can be a serial baby puncher and only expect a fine?
Digby said:
"Earlier, the judge accepted that the attack had been an isolated incident and ‘completely out of character’."
Given he was shown it wasn't a punch, on this emotive topic, he was being sensible and sending a message maybe? Not uncommon.
Unless, of course, you accept that you can be a serial baby puncher and only expect a fine?
If I go out and kill someone would it be ok because I've never done it before? What a stupid argument. Given he was shown it wasn't a punch, on this emotive topic, he was being sensible and sending a message maybe? Not uncommon.
Unless, of course, you accept that you can be a serial baby puncher and only expect a fine?
Digby said:
Alpinestars said:
The judge said it was "implausible" that he thought it was a doll. Don't you believe the judge's judgement or do you have evidence the Judge didn't have?
"Earlier, the judge accepted that the attack had been an isolated incident and ‘completely out of character’."Given he was shown it wasn't a punch, on this emotive topic, he was being sensible and sending a message maybe? Not uncommon.
Unless, of course, you accept that you can be a serial baby puncher and only expect a fine?
Of course it's much more likely the judge would lie about the plausibility (that's what he would have to be doing, which you claim is 'hardly uncommon') to 'send a message' rather than it actually being the judge's assessment of the defendant's defence...
Baby punch Russian roulette? Only 1 is real.
These things are so realistic Police Officers have broken into cars to 'save' them i.e. even professionals are fooled.
The peculiar thing is that very young babies do have a very doll like complexion, if I had a £1 every time I'd heard someone ask a new mum if her baby was real.....
Why some people can't understand that the bloke made a very stupid but understandable mistake still baffles me.
Despite all the 'outrage', clearly the punishment reflected that it was not intended, and he was effectively let off with a slap on the wrist.
These things are so realistic Police Officers have broken into cars to 'save' them i.e. even professionals are fooled.
The peculiar thing is that very young babies do have a very doll like complexion, if I had a £1 every time I'd heard someone ask a new mum if her baby was real.....
Why some people can't understand that the bloke made a very stupid but understandable mistake still baffles me.
Despite all the 'outrage', clearly the punishment reflected that it was not intended, and he was effectively let off with a slap on the wrist.
Digby said:
Make up what you like, chaps. I don't care how you want to entertain yourselves.
He got fined for flicking his finge.....sorry, PUNCHING a baby.
Sentence wasn't too harsh, wasn't too lenient, was quite sensible if you ask me.
Troll (doll). That's the only explanation I can come up with. He got fined for flicking his finge.....sorry, PUNCHING a baby.
Sentence wasn't too harsh, wasn't too lenient, was quite sensible if you ask me.
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