Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

Political bias at BBC - something has to be done surely

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Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Johnnytheboy said:
Did anyone have the misfortune to catch much of Radio 4's output today?

A themed day about the refugee crisis. Refugees are, we were told, very nice people, who we should welcome into our country.

From 0600 when I got in my van, until I got home, with very few breaks.
No but this morning I caught a longish advert for a programme investigating peoples 'European Identity'. Whatever that is, maybe dreamt up by the same people that push the idea of WW2 as a European Civil War. All the Italians I know identify as Italian, not European, the Dutch as Dutch and British as British/English/Welsh/NI/Scottish, but not European.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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mph1977 said:
BlackLabel said:
which just ads further evidence to the assertion that significant parts of the accusation of bias by the Bias is not the bias that those who are complaining thingk it is but is in fact their own confirmation bias, reinforced by echo chambers on social media .
I don't think so. Their so-called 'left wing bias' is actually a bias in favour or the new left (New Labour/Blairism). They favoured Blair over Major, Blair over Hague/IDS/Howard, Cameron (the Blairite) over Brown, Miliband and Corbyn. A future Blairite Labour leader such as Chukka or David Miliband will probably find they have the support of the BBC over a Conservative leader such as David Davis or probably any Eurosceptic.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Can't see this posted anywhere in this thread (from this Sunday just gone)...

Lefties are spot on, their precious BBC IS at risk... it may have to lose its bias

turbobloke

104,416 posts

262 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
Can't see this posted anywhere in this thread (from this Sunday just gone)...

Lefties are spot on, their precious BBC IS at risk... it may have to lose its bias
Thanks for the link.

Harji

2,201 posts

163 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
Can't see this posted anywhere in this thread (from this Sunday just gone)...

Lefties are spot on, their precious BBC IS at risk... it may have to lose its bias
What a load of tosh, I think the writer missed the point,North Korea TV is a state TV channel, what was inferred that very few countries have a TV station as a mouth piece fr the government,most of those would be the ones you won't want to live in, with very few rights or freedoms.

If the govt interfered then we are in the same league as those countries?

Now answer this, when the BBC was gunning after Alistair Campbell and Blair for the Iraq war, did you think there was a right whinger agenda? Did Labour interfere with the BBC despite the quite obvious aggression against the Labour party (and rightly so in my opinion), how would you explain?

turbobloke

104,416 posts

262 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Harji said:
Esseesse said:
Can't see this posted anywhere in this thread (from this Sunday just gone)...

Lefties are spot on, their precious BBC IS at risk... it may have to lose its bias
What a load of tosh, I think the writer missed the point,North Korea TV is a state TV channel, what was inferred that very few countries have a TV station as a mouth piece fr the government,most of those would be the ones you won't want to live in, with very few rights or freedoms.

If the govt interfered then we are in the same league as those countries?

Now answer this, when the BBC was gunning after Alistair Campbell and Blair for the Iraq war, did you think there was a right whinger agenda?
Personally no, because as per when the questionable 'support' for Brown arose, there were decades of left-wing bias to set against it.

That bias has continued, see the quotes from BBC people at the link.

andymadmak

14,665 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Harji said:
What a load of tosh, I think the writer missed the point,North Korea TV is a state TV channel, what was inferred that very few countries have a TV station as a mouth piece fr the government,most of those would be the ones you won't want to live in, with very few rights or freedoms.

If the govt interfered then we are in the same league as those countries?

Now answer this, when the BBC was gunning after Alistair Campbell and Blair for the Iraq war, did you think there was a right whinger agenda? Did Labour interfere with the BBC despite the quite obvious aggression against the Labour party (and rightly so in my opinion), how would you explain?
You are having a giraffe, right? You think that going after Blair and Campbell is an example of the BBC not being biased? Shy-it, not even the BBC could ignore just how far over the line Blair and co had gone with that war. It would have REALLY blown the whistle on BBC bias for even the most blinkered of people had they remained silent.
Did labour interfere with the BBC? Why, yes they did. Here is an example:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1434251/Campbell-goes-on-TV-to-deny-BBC-vendetta.html

Harji

2,201 posts

163 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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andymadmak said:
You are having a giraffe, right? You think that going after Blair and Campbell is an example of the BBC not being biased? Shy-it, not even the BBC could ignore just how far over the line Blair and co had gone with that war. It would have REALLY blown the whistle on BBC bias for even the most blinkered of people had they remained silent.
Did labour interfere with the BBC? Why, yes they did. Here is an example:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1434251/Campbell-goes-on-TV-to-deny-BBC-vendetta.html
An attack on BBC is not direct interference though, anyway I asked did Labour interfere in one of the most direct attacks on a govt I can remember?

You honestly think there's a whistle to blow, how funny! thousands of ppl employed by the BBC and all you have is an opinion and no fact.

andymadmak

14,665 posts

272 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Harji said:
andymadmak said:
You are having a giraffe, right? You think that going after Blair and Campbell is an example of the BBC not being biased? Shy-it, not even the BBC could ignore just how far over the line Blair and co had gone with that war. It would have REALLY blown the whistle on BBC bias for even the most blinkered of people had they remained silent.
Did labour interfere with the BBC? Why, yes they did. Here is an example:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1434251/Campbell-goes-on-TV-to-deny-BBC-vendetta.html
An attack on BBC is not direct interference though, anyway I asked did Labour interfere in one of the most direct attacks on a govt I can remember?

You honestly think there's a whistle to blow, how funny! thousands of ppl employed by the BBC and all you have is an opinion and no fact.
The fact is that ex BBC employees have blown the whistle on BBC bias on a number of occasions. Even the former head conceded it was biased.
Your denials are fatuous. How long does it take you to get the sand out of your ears?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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TTwiggy said:
Europa1 said:
WinstonWolf said:
Today was the first time I've seen Niger Farage on the BBC in the run up to the EU referendum.

You could have been forgiven for thinking he'd died the amount of coverage he's has on the Beeb.
Or the amount of coverage he's had in any media. I put it down more to the turf wars of who is the official Leave campaign, and who is going to be its public face(s), than the BBC particularly.
In the run-up to the election he was barely off screen. Maybe some of his supporters have realised that he's only good for preaching to the converted.
Or, and about a million times more likely, the BBC have cut him out completely.

TTwiggy

11,570 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Or, and about a million times more likely, the BBC have cut him out completely.
Saint Nige is one of the most frequent guests on QT.

zygalski

7,759 posts

147 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Or, and about a million times more likely, the BBC have cut him out completely.
Saint Nige is one of the most frequent guests on QT.
Perhaps that's because the Beeb know he does Brexit more harm than good these days?

TTwiggy

11,570 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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zygalski said:
TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Or, and about a million times more likely, the BBC have cut him out completely.
Saint Nige is one of the most frequent guests on QT.
Perhaps that's because the Beeb know he does Brexit more harm than good these days?
Ah - the old 'double-bias bluff'?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

241 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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TTwiggy said:
zygalski said:
TTwiggy said:
WinstonWolf said:
Or, and about a million times more likely, the BBC have cut him out completely.
Saint Nige is one of the most frequent guests on QT.
Perhaps that's because the Beeb know he does Brexit more harm than good these days?
Ah - the old 'double-bias bluff'?
If you say you've not noticed that he's all but disappeared from the Beeb since the buildup began I'll know that you're either a liar or blind.

TTwiggy

11,570 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
If you say you've not noticed that he's all but disappeared from the Beeb since the buildup began I'll know that you're either a liar or blind.
I don't monitor Nige's movements Winston, so I'll take your word for it.

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Farage was just on the Beeb on the DP.

TTwiggy

11,570 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Halb said:
Farage was just on the Beeb on the DP.
Liar!

turbobloke

104,416 posts

262 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Eric Mc said:
It wasn't Farage, it was his lefty programmed robot doppleganger.
Ah yes, the teetotal one.

Eric Mc

122,288 posts

267 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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It wasn't Farage. It was his lefty programmed robot doppleganger.

truck71

2,328 posts

174 months

Tuesday 17th May 2016
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Esseesse said:
Can't see this posted anywhere in this thread (from this Sunday just gone)...

Lefties are spot on, their precious BBC IS at risk... it may have to lose its bias
Jaysus,he's full of the joys of spring isn't he. Glad I don't live so negatively. Not sure a right wing rag helps the argument against a bias bbc given it's a bit fruit loop.
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