Anjem Choudary
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Likes Fast Cars said:
Do you really believe that?
It's obvious that people are not aware of what Islam represents and what it sets out to achieve.
A Caliphate demands Sharia law be applied.
Take a read - this guy is a Muslim, very well-balanced (also a leading defence industry analyst):
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8406/turkey-vic...
And ow about this:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8300/palestinia...
I know a lot of Muslims (Shia and Sunni, but mostly Sunni) most of those I know are, thankfully, what one would term "not practising". And for very good reasons.
Islam is a way of life go on, check it out, it is all-encompassing, all-consuming, it's a lifestyle, with a commitment for all Muslims to convert non-believers (there is plenty of information out there on this).
Yes, I have read a thing or two about Islam as well. It's obvious that people are not aware of what Islam represents and what it sets out to achieve.
A Caliphate demands Sharia law be applied.
Take a read - this guy is a Muslim, very well-balanced (also a leading defence industry analyst):
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8406/turkey-vic...
And ow about this:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8300/palestinia...
I know a lot of Muslims (Shia and Sunni, but mostly Sunni) most of those I know are, thankfully, what one would term "not practising". And for very good reasons.
Islam is a way of life go on, check it out, it is all-encompassing, all-consuming, it's a lifestyle, with a commitment for all Muslims to convert non-believers (there is plenty of information out there on this).
As I said, a political-religious entity commanding the respect and allegiance of millions of Muslims worldwide is probably more likely to be a force for moderation than a million different mullahs each building their own caliphates on YouTube and in the downtrodden suburbs of western cities, in my view.
On one hand we are jailing hate preachers like Choudhary yet we are still importing others from overseas so that they can tour the UK to give lectures and talks. The Archbishop of Canterbury even met these two.
https://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/08/Pakistani-c...
https://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/08/Pakistani-c...
Thank God Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller were banned, otherwise it could have got nasty.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23064355
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23064355
FredClogs said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
Do you really believe that?
It's obvious that people are not aware of what Islam represents and what it sets out to achieve.
A Caliphate demands Sharia law be applied.
Take a read - this guy is a Muslim, very well-balanced (also a leading defence industry analyst):
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8406/turkey-vic...
And ow about this:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8300/palestinia...
I know a lot of Muslims (Shia and Sunni, but mostly Sunni) most of those I know are, thankfully, what one would term "not practising". And for very good reasons.
Islam is a way of life go on, check it out, it is all-encompassing, all-consuming, it's a lifestyle, with a commitment for all Muslims to convert non-believers (there is plenty of information out there on this).
You are aware that there is at least half a dozen countries in the world that operate full Shariah law and at least a dozen more that operate some kind of theologically controlled legal system the majority of which we have full and normalised diplomatic relations with.It's obvious that people are not aware of what Islam represents and what it sets out to achieve.
A Caliphate demands Sharia law be applied.
Take a read - this guy is a Muslim, very well-balanced (also a leading defence industry analyst):
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8406/turkey-vic...
And ow about this:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8300/palestinia...
I know a lot of Muslims (Shia and Sunni, but mostly Sunni) most of those I know are, thankfully, what one would term "not practising". And for very good reasons.
Islam is a way of life go on, check it out, it is all-encompassing, all-consuming, it's a lifestyle, with a commitment for all Muslims to convert non-believers (there is plenty of information out there on this).
Edited by FredClogs on Wednesday 17th August 21:41
AJS- said:
Yes, I have read a thing or two about Islam as well.
As I said, a political-religious entity commanding the respect and allegiance of millions of Muslims worldwide is probably more likely to be a force for moderation than a million different mullahs each building their own caliphates on YouTube and in the downtrodden suburbs of western cities, in my view.
We'll continue to have divergent views on this one. As I said, a political-religious entity commanding the respect and allegiance of millions of Muslims worldwide is probably more likely to be a force for moderation than a million different mullahs each building their own caliphates on YouTube and in the downtrodden suburbs of western cities, in my view.
Moderate is not in their vocabulary.
AJS- said:
Thank God Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller were banned, otherwise it could have got nasty.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23064355
Would have made for an interesting evening of entertainment, could have sold tickets for that one and made a good profit.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23064355
So much for free speech though, one could argue they are entitled to air their views, after all Islamic radicals are allowed in.
Good to see covert operations used against the rest of Choudary's group of idiots: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36985766
Digga said:
Good to see covert operations used against the rest of Choudary's group of idiots: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36985766
More of this type of success needed. Alpinestars said:
Digga said:
Good to see covert operations used against the rest of Choudary's group of idiots: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36985766
More of this type of success needed. For the extremists, working on the assumption that what they've got away with up until now will be tolerated, or cannot be prosecuted is a false one.
Great news for the rest of us.
Digga said:
I guess it is a matter of 'watch this space'.
For the extremists, working on the assumption that what they've got away with up until now will be tolerated, or cannot be prosecuted is a false one.
Great news for the rest of us.
There will always be those that circumvent the intelligence, but so far it looks like we've been better than most at preventing attacks. One of the downsides to the imprisonment is the readily available, easily influenced idiots who will be his inmates. Given his profile, I hope this doesn't lead to another fruitful avenue for radicalisation. For the extremists, working on the assumption that what they've got away with up until now will be tolerated, or cannot be prosecuted is a false one.
Great news for the rest of us.
Alpinestars said:
There will always be those that circumvent the intelligence, but so far it looks like we've been better than most at preventing attacks. One of the downsides to the imprisonment is the readily available, easily influenced idiots who will be his inmates. Given his profile, I hope this doesn't lead to another fruitful avenue for radicalisation.
The latest on this is that he and his like will in future be incarcerated in a physically separate facility to other prisoners. It seems we are gradually learning from past mistakes.
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