Hero to Zero (Mo Farah content)?

Hero to Zero (Mo Farah content)?

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Digga

40,464 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Arise Sir Mo.

Yes, saw this and thought it well deserved IMHO.

del mar

2,838 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Deserved because he can run fast ?

It would be interesting to see how many grass roots long distance runners his success has helped develop. If hundreds of young people have taken to the track or started eating Quorn then yes his influence is worth something.


Wiggins - was his any better, cycling is more accessible to the average child in the street, and there does appear to be an increased interest in the sport ?




rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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better still - scrap the honours system. The whole thing is an obnoxious farce.

Digga

40,464 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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del mar said:
Deserved because he can run fast ?

It would be interesting to see how many grass roots long distance runners his success has helped develop. If hundreds of young people have taken to the track or started eating Quorn then yes his influence is worth something.


Wiggins - was his any better, cycling is more accessible to the average child in the street, and there does appear to be an increased interest in the sport ?
He most definitely has inspired many club runners, both to compete as well as merely keep fit.

Cycling is way less accessible for one very, very simple reason; you need more kit and it is a fk sight more expensive than a pair of kickc and some running shorts and vest.

As for Quorn, had he persuaded no one to consume that crap, he would be held in even higher esteem by me. hehe

catso

14,805 posts

269 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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del mar said:
Deserved because he can run fast ?

If hundreds of young people have started eating Quorn then yes his influence is worth something.
Have you tried Quorn? vomit

epom

11,677 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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BlackLabel said:
Arise Sir Mo.

That's a very big needle yikes

del mar

2,838 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Digga said:
e most definitely has inspired many club runners, both to compete as well as merely keep fit.

Cycling is way less accessible for one very, very simple reason; you need more kit and it is a fk sight more expensive than a pair of kickc and some running shorts and vest.

As for Quorn, had he persuaded no one to consume that crap, he would be held in even higher esteem by me. hehe
Fair enough.

As a veggie I do like Quorn .....

Digga

40,464 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Last time I ate Quorn was as a poor engineering student, and by default rather than choice. Admittedly that was a very long time ago, but I would hope they'd improved the stuff since then. A lot.

rscott

14,835 posts

193 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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del mar said:
Deserved because he can run fast ?

It would be interesting to see how many grass roots long distance runners his success has helped develop. If hundreds of young people have taken to the track or started eating Quorn then yes his influence is worth something.


Wiggins - was his any better, cycling is more accessible to the average child in the street, and there does appear to be an increased interest in the sport ?
Kath Grainger was made a dame for being able to row - is hers any more or less deserving?

Personally,I'd say the most deserving of the Olympians given this accolade recently was Lee Pearson. He's overcome massive physical disabilities to succeed in both able bodied and para-dressage, while also being very active in both disability and LGBT rights . First openly gay sportsperson to carry the GB flag into the Paralympic ceremony.
He's also credited with encouraging many disabled children to try riding as a therapy,

del mar

2,838 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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rscott said:
Kath Grainger was made a dame for being able to row - is hers any more or less deserving?

Personally,I'd say the most deserving of the Olympians given this accolade recently was Lee Pearson. He's overcome massive physical disabilities to succeed in both able bodied and para-dressage, while also being very active in both disability and LGBT rights . First openly gay sportsperson to carry the GB flag into the Paralympic ceremony.
He's also credited with encouraging many disabled children to try riding as a therapy,
Rowing is even worse ! I doubt our rowers success has led to many kids taking up rowing.


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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del mar said:
Rowing is even worse ! I doubt our rowers success has led to many kids taking up rowing.
I think Rowing has a really good youth programme but you do need water nearby to have a rowing club.

Europa1

10,923 posts

190 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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del mar said:
Rowing is even worse ! I doubt our rowers success has led to many kids taking up rowing.
You'd be surprised.

Evanivitch

20,465 posts

124 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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del mar said:
It would be interesting to see how many grass roots long distance runners his success has helped develop.
Long distance? He's a 10km champion...

Digga

40,464 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Evanivitch said:
del mar said:
It would be interesting to see how many grass roots long distance runners his success has helped develop.
Long distance? He's a 10km champion...
To a non-runner, that's probably a long way. hehe

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

111 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Digga said:
To a non-runner, that's probably a long way. hehe
To some cyclists, that's a long way.

As a foreigner, I don't understand the whole infatuation with OBE, CDE, SQE or any other E. Do people still REALLY care about those?

Digga

40,464 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Digga said:
To a non-runner, that's probably a long way. hehe
To some cyclists, that's a long way.

As a foreigner, I don't understand the whole infatuation with OBE, CDE, SQE or any other E. Do people still REALLY care about those?
Definitely a long way, off road in the mud right now!

Yes, many people - recipients and the general public alike - do perceive the prestige and recognition these awards represent. Don't forget, the U.K. is one of the foremost monarchies left, the royal family is generally well liked and so their interest in outstanding achievements carries gravitas.

Derek Smith

45,856 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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rover 623gsi said:
better still - scrap the honours system. The whole thing is an obnoxious farce.
That's got my vote.

We seem to get an awful lot of awards, and high ones, for merely doing their job. One pet dislike for me is actors getting an award, including things like dame, for acting. Often these are the highest paid actors as well. I've no problems with actors, or dancers, or other entertainers, but why an award?

Those who've directly inspired youngsters, now there's something that's got my support.

Something above and beyond, and that something should be something that's helped people in some way.

Mo's great, but he's a runner. The fact that he was the fastest over a certain distance means that he gets gold medals. Does he need another?

Hamilton - and I find his driving exciting and entertaining - is superb at his chosen job. However, people are suggesting he should be knighted. Is that for being the richest sportsperson in the UK/maybe world?

If that was it, runners getting gold and actors receiving an oscar or two being shoe-ins for another one, then I wouldn't be particularly bothered, but honours for giving a lot of money to a political party, then that's got to bring the whole process into disrepute.

I'd go further; fiddling kids means losing your lordship even if you inherited it from generations before. In fact, inheriting a lordship or other award should be banned.


Digga

40,464 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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I sort of understand what Derek says. In certain regards, Royal awards should perhaps be restricted to acts of bravery, selflessness and service.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Digga said:
I sort of understand what Derek says. In certain regards, Royal awards should perhaps be restricted to acts of bravery, selflessness and service.
I agree. Being paid tens of millions for services to acting/football/tennis/business is recognition enough. IMO honours should be for recognition of 'stuff' above and beyond doing your job well.

Digga

40,464 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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fblm said:
Digga said:
I sort of understand what Derek says. In certain regards, Royal awards should perhaps be restricted to acts of bravery, selflessness and service.
I agree. Being paid tens of millions for services to acting/football/tennis/business is recognition enough. IMO honours should be for recognition of 'stuff' above and beyond doing your job well.
I have a friend who was a surgery nurse in the army, amongst other places she served in Camp Bastion. She had a better time than others, but she was not totally unscathed.

Most weeks she's running marathons, competing in triathlons or ultra endurance races, always raising money for armed servicemen and women.

She's been to a palace garden party and IMHO deserved that recognition. Awards and honours should be for those going beyond - they do exist.