Food banks - what is the real story
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superkartracer said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage-can_stove - that's free, make it yourself, many different liquids can be used as fuel not just methylated spirits. Personally I prefer bio-ethanol as its non-toxic and doesn't stink.g3org3y said:
Blue Cat said:
I think the problem is that there is a lot of illusion of wealth today, for example it is cheaper and easier to buy a new car on a finance deal than try to save up to buy a good second hand car.
It is cheaper to have new phone contract with a new phone than buying an older phone with a pay as you go contract.
It is easier to get a new TV, washing machine, computer on a high interest forever deal than trying to get the money together to buy second hand.
A lot of people live month by month and an unexpected bill will cripple them. The problem is that these type of people are not newsworthy. It is the feckless and attention seekers (the Jeremy Kyle types) which you will see in the papers as these feed into people's prejudices about the poor.
The middle class man who loses his job, faces losing him home, doesn't qualify for benefits - well you will only hear about him when he jumps off a building
Good post is good. It is cheaper to have new phone contract with a new phone than buying an older phone with a pay as you go contract.
It is easier to get a new TV, washing machine, computer on a high interest forever deal than trying to get the money together to buy second hand.
A lot of people live month by month and an unexpected bill will cripple them. The problem is that these type of people are not newsworthy. It is the feckless and attention seekers (the Jeremy Kyle types) which you will see in the papers as these feed into people's prejudices about the poor.
The middle class man who loses his job, faces losing him home, doesn't qualify for benefits - well you will only hear about him when he jumps off a building
1. TV, a luxury and not really needed.. ( who watches the crap on there anyway )
2. Washing machine! again a luxury item, hand wash stuff... you wont die ( like they used to )
3. Computers can be had for £10 ( or use a cafe )
4. Phones can be had for free... Sypke/enter here..
People are crap with money and most can't cook a simple meal, you can live on very little...
Atmospheric]I simply cannot understand[/footnote said:
Yeah agreed, just purchased a full pig/lamb and that'll last 6 months.... so only need veg and some basic cooking skills and food sorted. But we don't have a freezer and we don't have a cooker and we can't cook//.... so maybe my advice not great ha ha.25kg sack of nice spuds cost me £8 from the local farm shop.
Edited by superkartracer on Tuesday 9th December 11:55
Agree with the comments about living on ready meals / convenience food rather than properly cooked from scratch basic ingredients.
When we ripped our kitchen out we were 3 weeks with effectively only a kettle and a microwave, plus a toaster. With the monotony broken up by the odd takeaway.
I seriously do not know how people live like that. After a week we ended up either eating out or if too tired it was beans on toast. Dread to think the base ingredient cost of some of those ready meals taking into consideration just distribution and profit margins.
People have also lost the ability to deal with leftovers. A decent size chicken gives us several meals after the roast dinner for 3, that is once converted into chicken/bacon casserole, home made pies and cold in sandwich or a salad. It's not difficult.
When we ripped our kitchen out we were 3 weeks with effectively only a kettle and a microwave, plus a toaster. With the monotony broken up by the odd takeaway.
I seriously do not know how people live like that. After a week we ended up either eating out or if too tired it was beans on toast. Dread to think the base ingredient cost of some of those ready meals taking into consideration just distribution and profit margins.
People have also lost the ability to deal with leftovers. A decent size chicken gives us several meals after the roast dinner for 3, that is once converted into chicken/bacon casserole, home made pies and cold in sandwich or a salad. It's not difficult.
We had a food bank/church type organisation move into our office block. They kindly attracted all the homeless, down and outs, druggies, alco's etc from miles around. The place stank with musty smelly old clothes and laundry. We'd quite often come into the office on a Monday morning to find empty bottles/cans, half eaten kebabs, and blankets/bedding thrown all over the grounds and car park.
Oh and to sum up their customers, I overhead one rejecting a cheap t-shirt asking if they had a better designer one.
Horrible places.
Oh and to sum up their customers, I overhead one rejecting a cheap t-shirt asking if they had a better designer one.
Horrible places.
Foliage said:
On the one hand we have hunger and on the other we have obesity.. Both big news stories in recent weeks.
Say it all about our culture, capitalism, government & media doesn't it?
I blame the supermarkets.
I think its food banks this week and fat bSay it all about our culture, capitalism, government & media doesn't it?
I blame the supermarkets.
ds next week. Maybe we could do a buddy system matching a obese person with someone at a food bank its a win win situation.Maybe this is what happens when Gov tries to run peoples lives for them
KTF said:
Is it really that difficult to do it yourself though?
Nope. But if you can afford to - and presumably the PHer above can - then why not. Same as getting bedding laundered rather than doing it yourself.Which reminds me!
ETA: I don't buy pre-chopped veg because I find chopping oddly therapeutic. The lady does, though.
FiF said:
People have also lost the ability to deal with leftovers. A decent size chicken gives us several meals after the roast dinner for 3, that is once converted into chicken/bacon casserole, home made pies and cold in sandwich or a salad. It's not difficult.
How big are your chickens?We eat ours at 5 months old and they are big buggers at over 2Kg each
we only get 3 meals out of them for 2
Frybywire said:
Which is an extreme not the normThe fat lazy f
k getting 30grand a year on benefits and 11 kids is also an extremeHow do you help the guy who can't afford food and punish the fat f
k?Frybywire said:
He has got a phone and a radio then.Of course some people will be suffering maybe they can't cope being on their own and maybe its not their fault but one story isn't reflective of the real picture.
I do know people doing very well on benefits (and I do mean very well) they run a car have two holidays a year mobile phone etc so not everyone on benefits is starving or in need.
GG89 said:
KTF said:
Maxf said:
Haha - you'd hate my fridge!
Heh. Out of interest, why do you buy stuff like that instead of, for example, a block of cheese and grate it yourself?As for the carrots, just laziness I suppose. We tend to eat them as snack instead of crisps so ease is the key, to keep us from reaching for the unhealthy alternative.
We also buy ready cut fruit!
I didnt subscribe to all of this before living with my Mrs, and would have laughed at it. Initially I did see it as a waste of money, but now I see it as being an acceptable loss in a bigger war - with better things to fight over (dont get me started on the heating)!
McWigglebum4th said:
FiF said:
People have also lost the ability to deal with leftovers. A decent size chicken gives us several meals after the roast dinner for 3, that is once converted into chicken/bacon casserole, home made pies and cold in sandwich or a salad. It's not difficult.
How big are your chickens?We eat ours at 5 months old and they are big buggers at over 2Kg each
we only get 3 meals out of them for 2
Maybe you have big portions.
Typical chicken for us would do Sunday roast for 3.
Cold for sandwiches with stuffing.
Rest of the carcass picked clean and made into a casserole again for 3. Or maybe put into individual portion foil containers and into the freezer.
Carcass put with veg and made into stock.
Next chicken same but made into 3 or 4 individual chicken/leek pies instead of the casserole.
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