Joyless feminism

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Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Soov535 said:
This is all going to end SO badly for her.
It isn't. It's all part of her plan. She's at Michael Mansfield's chambers. She has been building a profile as a feminist, activist lawyer/self-publicist, as can be seen from her website: http://www.charlotteproudman.com/

markiii

3,672 posts

196 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Zod said:
It isn't. It's all part of her plan. She's at Michael Mansfield's chambers. She has been building a profile as a feminist, activist lawyer/self-publicist, as can be seen from her website: http://www.charlotteproudman.com/
your probably correct, but I sincerely hope it ends badly

bstb3

4,171 posts

160 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Boosted LS1 said:
She's toxic, probably a man hater and clearly likes to set down her own terms. I doubt she'll ever have a proper relationship with a man. She'll be to busy bossing him around and telling him how she wants him to behave.
So marriage then. Poor sod.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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bstb3 said:
Boosted LS1 said:
She's toxic, probably a man hater and clearly likes to set down her own terms. I doubt she'll ever have a proper relationship with a man. She'll be to busy bossing him around and telling him how she wants him to behave.
So marriage then. Poor sod.
Think of the changes she would make to the vows.

"To honour and obey"? Stop raping me with your mental desires, churchperson.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

221 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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BOR said:
Christ, that's grasping at straws.

I cannot believe suposedly intelligent people can't grasp the difference in context - Facebook, OK / Linkedin Not OK / A cocktailbar, OK / The Bar, Not OK.

This isn't that complex, FFS.
Surely when it comes to sexual objectification - it's not ok in any context.

As a feminist - would she be happy to be 'sexually objectified' just as long as it only happened on facebook or in social rather than professional circumstances?

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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doogz said:
I recently told a bride at a wedding that she looked great. She did. Don't want to bang her though. Same with my wife's best friend.
Yea right!

turbobloke

104,510 posts

262 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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doogz said:
Moonhawk said:
Surely when it comes to sexual objectification - it's not ok in any context.

As a feminist - would she be happy to be 'sexually objectified' just as long as it only happened on facebook or in social rather than professional circumstances?
I suspect it depends if she found 'the hypothetically accused' attractive or not.
You have to wonder if Ms Proudman would have replied in exactly the same manner if she'd sent a LinkedIn request to Dinah Rose and received in return a passing compliment on her photo.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

206 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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doogz said:
andy-xr said:
I dont know, you'd have to ask her if she's out for a shag.

What you said earlier is 'if she didnt want the attention then....' when she's not gone out explicitly looking for attention. It might be implicit, as in, that's a good photo, makeup en pointe, my good side, I'll use that one. It might be something else.

But by you adding a condition of 'well, if you dont want the attention dont do x' is backwards. It's primal thinking. In feminist speak, it's male entitlement. Maybe there's a train of thought that says 'People can dress or act how they want and not be objectified as to whether that makes them more or less shaggable'

Put another way, some men tend to look at women and decide whether they'd have sex with them. Some men then tell women their decision. At no point has there ever been a hint, a suggestion or other explicit means of communicating with men, from women saying 'if I wear this or do my makeup like this it means I want you to tell me whether or not you'd fk me'
It's possible to tell someone they're good looking, or find them physically attractive, without wanting to fk them.

I recently told a bride at a wedding that she looked great. She did. Don't want to bang her though. Same with my wife's best friend.

From a chauvinistic point of view, she's got a tight ass, big tits, and could probably suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

Yet I can tell her she looks good without wanting to screw the bh.
OK, in one sense I'm wondering why you're making this about you, but in another I'm thinking maybe you want to be seen to be excluded from the 'some men'
Either way, it looks like you're agreeing to my opinion that a woman dressing a certain way isnt her saying

'if I wear this or do my makeup like this it means I want you to tell me whether or not you'd fk me'


technodup

7,585 posts

132 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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andy-xr said:
Put another way, some men tend to look at women and decide whether they'd have sex with them. Some men then tell women their decision. At no point has there ever been a hint, a suggestion or other explicit means of communicating with men, from women saying 'if I wear this or do my makeup like this it means I want you to tell me whether or not you'd fk me'
Yep, as a single man who's primary function is to procreate I concur. And if no man (or woman) communicates that they would then there wouldn't be many of us left. It doesn't really matter if it's the women or the man, or if it's a comment, a wink, a touch or anything else, someone has to start the ball rolling, and shouldn't be at risk of ending up in the papers if they're not interested.

She purposely chose to present herself in the best possible light, why? Because in spite of her protestations she knows fine well that appearances matter both in work and social and situations.

But in any case she's certainly found the right way to ensure she doesn't get any further attention from men. Women maybe.



andy-xr

13,204 posts

206 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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technodup said:
andy-xr said:
Put another way, some men tend to look at women and decide whether they'd have sex with them. Some men then tell women their decision. At no point has there ever been a hint, a suggestion or other explicit means of communicating with men, from women saying 'if I wear this or do my makeup like this it means I want you to tell me whether or not you'd fk me'
Yep, as a single man who's primary function is to procreate I concur. And if no man (or woman) communicates that they would then there wouldn't be many of us left. It doesn't really matter if it's the women or the man, or if it's a comment, a wink, a touch or anything else, someone has to start the ball rolling, and shouldn't be at risk of ending up in the papers if they're not interested.

She purposely chose to present herself in the best possible light, why? Because in spite of her protestations she knows fine well that appearances matter both in work and social and situations.

But in any case she's certainly found the right way to ensure she doesn't get any further attention from men. Women maybe.
Which leads us nicely on to the Burka.

otolith

56,743 posts

206 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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technodup said:
ep, as a single man who's primary function is to procreate I concur.
When I was a single man, I was quite keen on avoiding procreating at all costs. Actually, still am, but that's less common.

technodup

7,585 posts

132 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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otolith said:
technodup said:
ep, as a single man who's primary function is to procreate I concur.
When I was a single man, I was quite keen on avoiding procreating at all costs. Actually, still am, but that's less common.
I have zero interest in actually creating anyone, but (most of) the process by which it happens is still attractive.

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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Spot on. Self promotion at its worst.

Soov535

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35,829 posts

273 months

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

134 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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She should count herself lucky she doesn't live in capitalist china

https://www.techinasia.com/what-the-actual-f/#.Vda...

otolith

56,743 posts

206 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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An interesting article which seems to fit the pattern here;

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/0...

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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otolith said:
An interesting article which seems to fit the pattern here;

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/0...
A very interesting read and some food for thought. Thanks for posting the link.

Boosted LS1

21,190 posts

262 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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OpulentBob said:
Think of the changes she would make to the vows.

"To honour and obey"? Stop raping me with your mental desires, churchperson.
Missionary sex, by the rules she makes and with just the fewest pumps per minute and only then if she wants a baby.

In the dark.

Boosted LS1

21,190 posts

262 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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.. Something she'd really hate lol.

Boosted LS1

21,190 posts

262 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Or, we could all send her our dirty underpants to was and iron.