Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

[turbobloke]

Mr GrimNasty said:

turbobloke said:

The GWPF has already appointed independent scientists to lead an inquiry into data 'adjustment'. Hopefully their report will be announced with perfect timing, immediately before Paris and just as the BBC and Guardian are whipping themselves into an orgasmic frenzy of faith.

But they are re-adjusting the data so fast it's like trying to hit a moving target!

Climate modellers had already set a demanding target for fiddlefactoring some years before the turn of the century.

Richard Kerr discussing climate modelling in Science in 1997 said:

The climate modelers have been cheating for so long it's almost become respectable.

[Ali G]

turbobloke said:

Jasandjules said:

Still, more evidence that it is a religion and not scientific at all. No scientist worth their salt would ever make such an assertion - jail those who disagree with my research!?!? I think perhaps another career is in order then fella.

It's not science as we know it Jim, not in this thread

Beam me up Scotty it's getting cold down here.

Ye cannae break the laws of physics!

We come in peace - shoot to kill, shoot to kill.

[Jasandjules]

Ali G said:

Ye cannae break the laws of physics!

Nope. That's why they use computer models for their bul***t......

[chris watton]

Jasandjules said:

Ali G said:

Ye cannae break the laws of physics!

Nope. That's why they use computer models for their bul***t......

As long as they're protected by like-minded weak governments, they will just carry in wit impunity, even, seemingly, using laws to stymie any (legitimate)? opposite viewpoints.

I wrote earlier in this thread and I stick by it, the weak wishy-washy Western governments will be our undoing if it carries on unchecked, and sadly, that does look likely to be the case.

[Ali G]

Jasandjules said:

Ali G said:

Ye cannae break the laws of physics!

Nope. That's why they use computer models for their bul***t......

It's worse than that - it's dead Jim, dead Jim.

If only Star Trekkin' had just been a song and not a commentary on what would be.

(Apologies - it's Saturday night! - time for bed said Zebedee)



hic

[XM5ER]

mko9 said:

2013BRM said:

DocJock said:

XM5ER said:

jshell said:

To be fair, Europe has sweltered whilst the UK has had a very stty summer.

To correct you, South eastern Europe has sweltered, the rest less so. Germany, France and Northwards has been as rubbish and cold as here. In addition, I recall watching the Radio1 Ibiza special on the iplayer, it was pissing down there in August; that is almost unheard of.

And to correct you, a friend who lives near Antwerp has had the hottest summer in at least the last thirty years.

I have personally sweltered in Basel(twice) Ljunjiana (twice) Utrecht and Geel and every time I returned to the UK it was bloody freezing

It certainly wasn't hot here in Stuttgart. There were only about a dozen days over 90F the whole summer.

Dear me I did come across as a patronizing git there didn't I? Sorry about that.

So it would appear that its been a bit hot/cold across Europe, in other words, fairly normal.

[Mr GrimNasty]

XM5ER said:

mko9 said:

2013BRM said:

DocJock said:

XM5ER said:

jshell said:

To be fair, Europe has sweltered whilst the UK has had a very stty summer.

To correct you, South eastern Europe has sweltered, the rest less so. Germany, France and Northwards has been as rubbish and cold as here. In addition, I recall watching the Radio1 Ibiza special on the iplayer, it was pissing down there in August; that is almost unheard of.

And to correct you, a friend who lives near Antwerp has had the hottest summer in at least the last thirty years.

I have personally sweltered in Basel(twice) Ljunjiana (twice) Utrecht and Geel and every time I returned to the UK it was bloody freezing

It certainly wasn't hot here in Stuttgart. There were only about a dozen days over 90F the whole summer.

Dear me I did come across as a patronizing git there didn't I? Sorry about that.

So it would appear that its been a bit hot/cold across Europe, in other words, fairly normal.

Europe in the main had a hot summer, yes, was it unprecedented, a paradigm shift in climate, no.

[mybrainhurts]

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/9/21/m...

Snouts in troughs...

Worse than previously thought.

[turbobloke]

mybrainhurts said:

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/9/21/m...

Snouts in troughs...

Worse than previously thought.

Kerching.

I was going to post an oink but not after yesterday's news.

[paulrockliffe]

Harrabin on R4 this morning reporting on various vested interests who were all, surprisingly, critical of the Government reducing their subsidies by 90% or whatever.

The highlight for me was when he said played a clip of a car accelerating hard and then announced that George Osbourne was going to charge Porsche drivers the same VED as a Prius. The swine!

Nothing but propaganda.

[mybrainhurts]

paulrockliffe said:

then announced that George Osbourne was going to charge Porsche drivers the same VED as a Prius

I like..

My Honda S2000 was registered a few days into Gordon Brown's increase to £500. When does this welcome reform kick in?

[chris watton]

mybrainhurts said:

paulrockliffe said:

then announced that George Osbourne was going to charge Porsche drivers the same VED as a Prius

I like..

My Honda S2000 was registered a few days into Gordon Brown's increase to £500. When does this welcome reform kick in?

I just paid a whopping £225 for a years tax on my 4.3 TVR Tamora!

[paulrockliffe]

mybrainhurts said:

paulrockliffe said:

then announced that George Osbourne was going to charge Porsche drivers the same VED as a Prius

I like..

My Honda S2000 was registered a few days into Gordon Brown's increase to £500. When does this welcome reform kick in?

I thought it was only going to apply to newly registered cars?

[rovermorris999]

paulrockliffe said:

I thought it was only going to apply to newly registered cars?

Just so.

[mybrainhurts]

rovermorris999 said:

paulrockliffe said:

I thought it was only going to apply to newly registered cars?

Just so.

Go on, ruin my day, why don't you?...

[Ali G]

mybrainhurts said:

rovermorris999 said:

paulrockliffe said:

I thought it was only going to apply to newly registered cars?

Just so.

Go on, ruin my day, why don't you?...

S2000?

Take your pick!

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-exempt-from-vehicle-tax

[robinessex]

It seems as if everybody, except the government, is beginning to see that the Nuclear power plant plan is complete bks. Old George is having to promise more and more of our cash to prop it up for when it all goes pear shape.

[hidetheelephants]

Einion Yrth said:

Although I'm not a big fan of grandiose titles so I'd prefer "Mohandas K. Gandhi".

He didn't say that; it was some american and he didn't say it either, he was misquoted. Not that I knew, but it was on 'Quote Unquote'.

[Pesty]

Germany waking up?


MUNICH, Sept 8 (Reuters) - The German state of Bavaria will press the federal government to reduce supports for renewable energy, a high-ranking local policymaker said on Tuesday, calling the cost of green power a threat to economic growth.

"We have to step on the brakes of electricity costs. Germany's energy transition must not become a decisive disadvantage and a risk to our welfare," said Ilse Aigner, deputy prime minister of the south-western German state and minister for energy.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/08/bavaria-...

[robinessex]

Al Gore demonstrates his inability to understand some simple maths re the ACTUAL cost of energy.

Mr Gore said he was "puzzled" by the government's wholesale cuts to subsidies for renewable energy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3432...