Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3

[Mr GrimNasty]

How exactly do you make someone who can afford to buy a small country understand that some people have to chose between food and energy every winter in an 'advanced' country like the UK?

[Otispunkmeyer]

turbobloke said:

mybrainhurts said:

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2015/9/21/m...

Snouts in troughs...

Worse than previously thought.

Kerching.

I was going to post an oink but not after yesterday's news.

I did think this crusade to get "deniers" imprisoned was a) totally wrong with respect to how science is done. I don't get the people who disagreed with my research in trouble with the law, I try to argue my case with my data and my working out. If I can't perhaps I concede, perhaps I go away to do more work. b) is a double edge sword that could just as easily land them in jail if anyone were to look into their scientific practices....huge risk to take. I guess they really believe they are above it all, unimpeachable.

"people in glass houses...."

[Diderot]

robinessex said:

Al Gore demonstrates his inability to understand some simple maths re the ACTUAL cost of energy.

Mr Gore said he was "puzzled" by the government's wholesale cuts to subsidies for renewable energy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3432...

Fat Albert can fk right off.

[Einion Yrth]

hidetheelephants said:

Einion Yrth said:

Although I'm not a big fan of grandiose titles so I'd prefer "Mohandas K. Gandhi".

He didn't say that; it was some american and he didn't say it either, he was misquoted. Not that I knew, but it was on 'Quote Unquote'.

[mybrainhurts]

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/19/open-letter-...

Someone's read my email to Cameron and Clegg, written a few years ago, and copied it to Obama.

...choose another legacy, Barry, before it's too late...

[Jasandjules]

Mr GrimNasty said:

How exactly do you make someone who can afford to buy a small country understand that some people have to chose between food and energy every winter in an 'advanced' country like the UK?

It is difficult for someone to "understand" something when it could cost them significant sums of money.

However it was all very clear and understandable when millions of dollars are flooding his way.

Such people (along with the lying fraudulent scientists if found to be) should have their assets stripped as profits of crime.

[rovermorris999]

It all started in the 1940's apparently according to this Aussie 'Centre of Excellence'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-324...

We're doomed apparently.

[Mr GrimNasty]

rovermorris999 said:

It all started in the 1940's apparently according to this Aussie 'Centre of Excellence'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-324...

We're doomed apparently.

Best comment so far "It's all Volkswagens fault."

[Ali G]

Mr GrimNasty said:

Best comment so far "It's all Volkswagens fault."

Manmade Climate Change -> Volkswagen Effect.

Hmmmm...

Computer says GIGO

Parallels there may be.

[LongQ]

The Vatican State shoots to the top of the Climate Change Politics ladder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34337942


What next from them - Population control?

[hidetheelephants]

LongQ said:

The Vatican State shoots to the top of the Climate Change Politics ladder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34337942


What next from them - Population control?

Makes a change from cozying up to tyrants and mass murderers.

[dudleybloke]

LongQ said:

What next from them - Population control?

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld

Can't olde Popey ask his mate upstairs to sort it all out?

[LongQ]

dudleybloke said:

LongQ said:

What next from them - Population control?

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld

Can't olde Popey ask his mate upstairs to sort it all out?

Skimmed the early paragraphs of the page on the link.

2030 eh?

I will read it in more detail to find out how they are going to teach pigs to fly.

They do mention that I assume?

[rolando]

LongQ said:

The Vatican State shoots to the top of the Climate Change Politics ladder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34337942


What next from them - Population control?

If His Holiness is so concerned, he should have stayed at home instead of compounding the issue by flying half way round the world and posing off the back of a popemobile. It would be far better if he walked amongst his congregation and spoke to them, Hypocrite

Edited by rolando on Thursday 24th September 09:52

[The Don of Croy]

Ali G said:

Mr GrimNasty said:

Best comment so far "It's all Volkswagens fault."

Manmade Climate Change -> Volkswagen Effect....

Listening to R4 this morning, it's not too far fetched to see some angle linking 'atmospheric deaths' to vehicle emissions (Naughtie was really trying before 08:00) and thus onto Paris boondoggle to bring in some more regulations. It's all atmos/climate/nox/scare.

My daughter commented during last night's news - 'Why the fuss? Aren't cars much, much cleaner than ever before anyway?'

[Diderot]

Yesterday afternoon I had a call from some pre-recorded PPI style . Noticing unusual in that sadly, except this was about mis-selling of solar panels. Apparently, my house doesn't face due south which is why I could get compo and assorted roof repairs done at no cost.

Is this the start of an avalanche of solar panel payouts?

[XM5ER]

Diderot said:

Yesterday afternoon I had a call from some pre-recorded PPI style . Noticing unusual in that sadly, except this was about mis-selling of solar panels. Apparently, my house doesn't face due south which is why I could get compo and assorted roof repairs done at no cost.

Is this the start of an avalanche of solar panel payouts?

Run that by me again!

[Diderot]

XM5ER said:

Diderot said:

Yesterday afternoon I had a call from some pre-recorded PPI style . Noticing unusual in that sadly, except this was about mis-selling of solar panels. Apparently, my house doesn't face due south which is why I could get compo and assorted roof repairs done at no cost.

Is this the start of an avalanche of solar panel payouts?

Run that by me again!

That's exactly what I thought too

They seem to be springing up now: http://www.reclaimsolar.co.uk/about-us/ for example.

[XM5ER]

Diderot said:

That's exactly what I thought too

They seem to be springing up now: http://www.reclaimsolar.co.uk/about-us/ for example.

Interesting. But where does the compo come from? I wouldn't fancy my chances with the average fly by night Solar installer company.

[Jacobyte]

XM5ER said:

Diderot said:

That's exactly what I thought too

They seem to be springing up now: http://www.reclaimsolar.co.uk/about-us/ for example.

Interesting. But where does the compo come from? I wouldn't fancy my chances with the average fly by night Solar installer company.

They're only after charging you for the non-refundable £99 assessment fee. Then you'll get "oh, you're not eligible for compo, never mind". Kerching, Next.