Peaches Geldof found dead.
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longblackcoat said:
If only there was an 'ignore' button.
OT: I have long thought this. I've used other fora which do offer this facility and it's been very useful. I have in fact recently decided to largely stop posting unless it's a question or answer on a purely factual point (Can I paint my car black? Yes, you can.) otherwise you're virtually guaranteed to get someone jump on your post and rip into it and/or you, rather than discussing it sensibly. Just becomes pointless posting subjective opinion. Great shame but this site has gone massively downhill in recent times. (And there we are, a subjective view for someone to shred me with!)
Apologies for the emotive language used, however I find it abhorrent that someone who has seen their own mother do something stupid and selfish, would then choose to risk inflicting the same on her own children.
That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
10 Pence Short said:
Apologies for the emotive language used, however I find it abhorrent that someone who has seen their own mother do something stupid and selfish, would then choose to risk inflicting the same on her own children.
That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
100% Agree with you chap, but its not the PH way. I try to put myself in a scenario similar and its beyond my imagination thinking as she apparently has. IMHO Bob knewThat she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
10 Pence Short said:
Apologies for the emotive language used, however I find it abhorrent that someone who has seen their own mother do something stupid and selfish, would then choose to risk inflicting the same on her own children.
That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
Whilst I disagree with a lot of your posts I actually think you have nailed it with that one.That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
Nailed it as in what a lot of people may be thinking. I personally found some of the "fawning" coverage immediately after her death to be sugar coated garbage.
Every day there are REAL people who just get on with it. "IT" being life itself.
10 Pence Short said:
Apologies for the emotive language used, however I find it abhorrent that someone who has seen their own mother do something stupid and selfish, would then choose to risk inflicting the same on her own children.
That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
I think this is fair enough. All the "she was a great mother" coverage rings a little hollow. That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
10 Pence Short said:
Apologies for the emotive language used, however I find it abhorrent that someone who has seen their own mother do something stupid and selfish, would then choose to risk inflicting the same on her own children.
That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
We all do stupid things we later regret, some of us live to tell the tale...That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
WinstonWolf said:
10 Pence Short said:
Apologies for the emotive language used, however I find it abhorrent that someone who has seen their own mother do something stupid and selfish, would then choose to risk inflicting the same on her own children.
That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
We all do stupid things we later regret, some of us live to tell the tale...That she is dead is very sad, but it doesn't justify the 'promising footballer' crap dead youngsters always seem to be eulogised as. She was a druggy who died doing drugs.
-Z- said:
WinstonWolf said:
We all do stupid things we later regret, some of us live to tell the tale...
Shooting up with Heroin next to your 1 year old kid while going on TV claiming you are a great mum is a bit more than stupid. Unless she left a note, I guess we'll never know if it was accidental or suicide.
FatSumo said:
-Z- said:
WinstonWolf said:
We all do stupid things we later regret, some of us live to tell the tale...
Shooting up with Heroin next to your 1 year old kid while going on TV claiming you are a great mum is a bit more than stupid. Unless she left a note, I guess we'll never know if it was accidental or suicide.
However, I still agree with what -Z- said.
Ultimately there is no compulsion on any of us to judge her, condemn her or do anything other than express regret at the circumstances that led to this outcome.
I have no way of knowing whether it was intentional or accidental. I feel sad for her if it was a choice she felt she had to make, and I would still feel sad if it was an accidental overdose. Mostly however my sympathy is for those left behind, who also don't know WHY.
I have no way of knowing whether it was intentional or accidental. I feel sad for her if it was a choice she felt she had to make, and I would still feel sad if it was an accidental overdose. Mostly however my sympathy is for those left behind, who also don't know WHY.
La Liga said:
FatSumo said:
-Z- said:
WinstonWolf said:
We all do stupid things we later regret, some of us live to tell the tale...
Shooting up with Heroin next to your 1 year old kid while going on TV claiming you are a great mum is a bit more than stupid. Unless she left a note, I guess we'll never know if it was accidental or suicide.
However, I still agree with what -Z- said.
Asterix said:
I assume you mean the OD - unless she was accidentally doing heroin...
Indeed the OD. The questions inside the family must be horrific, who knew she was taking heroin, where was she getting it from etc. Seems very unlikely that people close to her didn't know she was using. If by "knowing" you mean 100%, then probably not. If by the standards the coroner will use, then there are lots of evidential ways in which a conclusion can be drawn beyond an obvious note / letter.
Indeed. But the world is a little more complicated than that.
Jasandjules said:
La Liga said:
eroin addiction is extremely powerful. When I speak to users they say it's like that from the first hit.
Logically, the solution is to not take any in the first place?Gargamel said:
Asterix said:
I assume you mean the OD - unless she was accidentally doing heroin...
Indeed the OD. The questions inside the family must be horrific, who knew she was taking heroin, where was she getting it from etc. Seems very unlikely that people close to her didn't know she was using. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff