Huddersfield schoolboy bullying video.

Huddersfield schoolboy bullying video.

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Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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NoNeed said:
I'm still seeing that tash when you postbiggrin
I'm noticing stares.
They're just not popular today.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

202 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Halb said:
NoNeed said:
I'm still seeing that tash when you postbiggrin
I'm noticing stares.
They're just not popular today.
You mean they have stopped looking at me?hehe

Chris944_S2

1,939 posts

225 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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del mar said:
This has only made the news because he is a refugee.
Absolutely, just like when you hear a story of a refugee raping a woman, it only makes the news because he's a refugee. White British boys being bullied or white British men raping women doesn't interest the general public, so papers don't bother reporting it.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,851 posts

73 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Not sure what I'm dancing around or returning from. There seems to have been a lot of abuse of sympathy for 'child' refugees.

If anyone cares what I think of this case, pretty foul behaviour to attack someone much smaller, with a broken arm who doesn't want a fight. The school and possibly the police should have dealt with it. Thanks to their failure to do so it is now being used as another case for virtue signally, raising a large amount of money (for what exactly?) and no doubt to say what an awful racist country we are and how we really ought to allow in more refugees, clamp down on 'hate speech' and so forth.

As for why neither the school or the police haven't dealt with this earlier you can only speculate, while noting that in general such organisations are pretty hopeless at dealing with anything until it comes up on their Twitter feed and embarrasses them into acting.

graylag

685 posts

69 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Not sure what I'm dancing around or returning from. There seems to have been a lot of abuse of sympathy for 'child' refugees.

If anyone cares what I think of this case, pretty foul behaviour to attack someone much smaller, with a broken arm who doesn't want a fight. The school and possibly the police should have dealt with it. Thanks to their failure to do so it is now being used as another case for virtue signally, raising a large amount of money (for what exactly?) and no doubt to say what an awful racist country we are and how we really ought to allow in more refugees, clamp down on 'hate speech' and so forth.

As for why neither the school or the police haven't dealt with this earlier you can only speculate, while noting that in general such organisations are pretty hopeless at dealing with anything until it comes up on their Twitter feed and embarrasses them into acting.
You’re dancing around being explicit in your overall views on refugees and their ilk, as evidenced by your comments.

To give you the benefit of the doubt I’m struggling to see why it’s virtue signalling when the police have failed to act here, but it’s not virtue signalling when the police fail to act when the skin colour roles are reversed

I don’t think we should let in more or less refugees. I believe we should let in those who deserve to be let in and not judge everyone by the Tommy Robinson litmus test. (As below)




Edited by graylag on Saturday 1st December 18:49

graylag

685 posts

69 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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NoNeed said:
just for clarification, the school and the police had dealt with the incident 6 weeks ago, it was the families solicitor who decided to use the video to raise money to sue the school.
Can you “clarify” this with evidence of it having been dealt with both by the school and police.

A bit of proof of the solicitor being the one to whip it all up would be good too

JuanCarlosFandango

7,851 posts

73 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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I made a joke about 'child 'refugees gaming the system and now you know all my views on refugees 'and their ilk'?

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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graylag said:
NoNeed said:
just for clarification, the school and the police had dealt with the incident 6 weeks ago, it was the families solicitor who decided to use the video to raise money to sue the school.
Can you “clarify” this with evidence of it having been dealt with both by the school and police.

A bit of proof of the solicitor being the one to whip it all up would be good too
And your hero's facebook page doesn't count as a source.

graylag

685 posts

69 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
I made a joke about 'child 'refugees gaming the system and now you know all my views on refugees 'and their ilk'?
You’re clearly incapable of answering questions.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,851 posts

73 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Which question?

graylag

685 posts

69 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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JuanCarlosFandango said:
Which question?
I’m struggling to see why it’s virtue signalling when the police fail to act, but it s not when the skin colours are reversed.

Feel free to give opinions.

Of course you won’t, you’ll pick up on a missed semi colon or similar, or claim it’s not a question when the challenge is clearly there.




Dindoit

1,645 posts

96 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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NoNeed said:
just for clarification, the school and the police had dealt with the incident 6 weeks ago, it was the families solicitor who decided to use the video to raise money to sue the school.
More lies

graylag

685 posts

69 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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If the family follow through with their threat to sue and win, then there’s a lot of stuff on this thread that potentially opens the door too

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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graylag said:
If the family follow through with their threat to sue and win, then there’s a lot of stuff on this thread that potentially opens the door too
It's pretty amazing that some posts haven't been deleted.

otolith

56,728 posts

206 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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I thought the incident which had been supposedly "dealt with" was the arm fracturing incident. Clearly wasn't dealt with very effectively.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

202 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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Dindoit said:
NoNeed said:
just for clarification, the school and the police had dealt with the incident 6 weeks ago, it was the families solicitor who decided to use the video to raise money to sue the school.
More lies
REALLY?

This is all from mainstream links I was very careful.


will now double check

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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NoNeed said:
REALLY?

This is all from mainstream links I was very careful.


will now double check
Really looking forward to a link to a credible confirmation the solicitor released the video to raise money in order to sue the school.



Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 1st December 19:49

graylag

685 posts

69 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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NoNeed said:
REALLY?

This is all from mainstream links I was very careful.


will now double check
Feel free to link as many of them as you can

NoNeed

15,137 posts

202 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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graylag said:
NoNeed said:
REALLY?

This is all from mainstream links I was very careful.


will now double check
Feel free to link as many of them as you can
I'm frantically trying to find all the articles I read.

found one that had this statement that I may have read incorrectly believing it had been dealt with, but so much dross since I first looked looks like I have my work cut out.

West Yorkshire Police said another “unconnected” incident occurred on October 7 and left the teenager being attacked in the first video with a wrist injury.

Three children were interviewed but officers left the matter to be dealt with by the school.

JuanCarlosFandango

7,851 posts

73 months

Saturday 1st December 2018
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graylag said:
I’m struggling to see why it’s virtue signalling when the police fail to act, but it s not when the skin colours are reversed.

Feel free to give opinions.

Of course you won’t, you’ll pick up on a missed semi colon or similar, or claim it’s not a question when the challenge is clearly there.
Where did I say anything about skin colour at all?

Sharing one of the millions of school fight videos online and across the media because of the skin colour of the victim, as thousands of people apparently did, seems to smack of virtue signalling to me.

As for my opinions: It's a horrible incident, attacking someone smaller with a broken arm who doesn't want a fight is disgusting behaviour and he should be punished appropriately.

Since we're on the subject of refugees: I don't think we should be taking in men in their 20s and 30s who claim to be children, or people who think it's ok to camp out in Calais and break into lorries. They're not refugees, they're criminals. I don't think we should be taking in refugees at all as a general policy because none of our neighbouring countries are at war. We should be helping refugees in the regions affected to find safety then return and rebuild their countries. When there's family links or other reasons for wishing to come to Britain then they should do through normal immigration channels, once safe.

None of that is any fault of the boy in the video, and none of it for one minute excuses the behaviour of the bully or animosity towards individuals in general. It's a failure of our own government's policies and that's where anger should be directed.

And I still think it's the first news story about a 14 year old refugee who isn't a foot taller than his class mates with a full beard.

Do what you like with semi-colons.