Another Tunisian Attack - Sousse
Discussion
AJL308 said:
Yes, my mistake, been a long week.
Ok, so make the offer £100K to get to the £2.6bn total. Actually make it £200k for a bill of £5.2bn. Still a do-able figure .
Are you....Gordon Brown... Just give up Ok, so make the offer £100K to get to the £2.6bn total. Actually make it £200k for a bill of £5.2bn. Still a do-able figure .
.Error was pointed over 90 minutes ago, and since then you have been digging.
AJL308 said:
Yes, my mistake, been a long week.
Ok, so make the offer £100K to get to the £2.6bn total. Actually make it £200k for a bill of £5.2bn. Still a do-able figure given that we are talking about £7bn just to renovate the Palace of Westminster and are spending twice that digging a rail tunnel under London which will benefit a tiny minority of the population. It's still enough that any family taking the offer would be fabulously wealthy in whatever Muslim country they decide to go to.
Jesus fOk, so make the offer £100K to get to the £2.6bn total. Actually make it £200k for a bill of £5.2bn. Still a do-able figure given that we are talking about £7bn just to renovate the Palace of Westminster and are spending twice that digging a rail tunnel under London which will benefit a tiny minority of the population. It's still enough that any family taking the offer would be fabulously wealthy in whatever Muslim country they decide to go to.
king Christ. Go back to primary school.br d said:
zygalski said:
Boosted LS1 said:
...It is true that many muslims seem moderate but they could easily make worldwide protestations about ISIS and other sins carried out by their members. They're inaction says it all...
Perhaps, and I know this is a leap, the moderate majority are s**t-scared?They aren't scared of extremists, they are scared of Allah.
I know plenty of moderate Muslims who wouldn't dream of attacking innocents but by their very nature they are entirely brainwashed.
To reject the actions of fellow Muslims however disgraceful might incur the wrath of God. The sword verses are in the Quran for all to see, even if they disagree it's still the word of God. And the word of God is irrefutable.
You have to try to put yourself in their absurdly irrational mindset. Their creator, quite literally the arbiter of everything and everybody they know, the ultimate decider of their and all their loved one's fates is standing behind them right now drumming his fingers on the table and asking: "Do you really want to reject my teachings? Do you really want to reject me?"
They are completely f
ked. You can't rationalise this nonsense. Talk of moderates and education is utterly irrelevant, either ban religion or stop importing it.
Edited by br d on Sunday 28th June 18:58
AJL308 said:
Fantic SuperT said:
Unfortunately hardly anyone, including HM Revenue or the treasury use the olde-English definition of a billion. To ignore the US billion (1,000 million) in 2015 is perverse.
Yes, my mistake, been a long week.Ok, so make the offer £100K to get to the £2.6bn total. Actually make it £200k for a bill of £5.2bn. Still a do-able figure given that we are talking about £7bn just to renovate the Palace of Westminster and are spending twice that digging a rail tunnel under London which will benefit a tiny minority of the population. It's still enough that any family taking the offer would be fabulously wealthy in whatever Muslim country they decide to go to.
Would this money be available to recent converts? I see a business opportunity here.
Vaud said:
andymc said:
I don't think Christians are shooting holiday makers and beheading infidels at will
Sabra and Shatila massacre in 1982?Or plenty of Christians killed other Christians in NI; but quite right - no beheadings, they burned houses instead.
It appears that (33 years ago) between 760 and 3,500 people were killed.
Islamists have been killing the same number on a daily basis for more than a year. I'm surprised that anyone with half a brain would compare the two.
Equally, in Northern Ireland, it would appear that the result of 35 years of terrorism was that the death toll was about the same as two days of ISIL executions.
Kakopetria said:
The crusades were nothing to do with Christianity?
They were when I went to school
Of course they were, just like these killings, and all the other sThey were when I went to school
t has everything to do with Islam.Whenever these things happen we see the usual 'community leaders' spouting forth that it is un-Islamic. That is demonstrably false; any person who can be a follower of Islam, be raised in its culture, who can study and be instructed in its ways and who can read it's holy book and who then takes from that that they should go to a tourist beach and slaughter foreigners en-masse or fly aircraft into buildings or any of the other sick s
t they get up to is acting in an Islamic fashion.Your religion is what you take from it and what you make of it. If someone can study Islam and conclude that their religion compels them to do something like that then it is by definition Islamic. It may not be another person's definition of what is Islamic but that is not the point, it is Islamic if the individual considers it to be.
don4l said:
Islamists have been killing the same number on a daily basis for more than a year. I'm surprised that anyone with half a brain would compare the two.
Again, my point was in response that Christianity, like all religions has it's extremists. None of the recent events represent the "average" or core religious viewpoint of Islam.As reasoned polite debate is impossible without resort to low quality responses, I shall leave you to your squabbles.
AJL308 said:
No, it's 2.6 billion. 2.6 million people, a million quid each. One million million is one billion. If there are one million people and you give each one a million pounds then that is one billion pounds. Two point six times one million is two point six billion.
In modern economic terms a billion is commonly meant to mean 1000 x million.Ahh, just saw your edit. As you were...
Vaud said:
None of the recent events represent the "average" or core religious viewpoint of Islam.
Really? Do you have any actual facts to support that?From what I'm seeing Islam seems to have an uncanny ability to produce utterly psychotic behaviour in a significant number of its followers. Vast numbers of people seem to think that horrific levels of violence, mass murder and torture are entirely acceptable to their belief. Not to mention the oppression of women and non believers, the brutal treatment of petty criminals and any number of other horrific behaviours.
Lots of people, and I mean a huge number of people, brought up in this religion, who have been instructed in it and who have studied its holy texts, have come to the conclusion that they need to go out and commit unspeakable acts of barbarism in its name. That doesn't suggest a core belief of peace and tolerance to me.
Vaud said:
don4l said:
Islamists have been killing the same number on a daily basis for more than a year. I'm surprised that anyone with half a brain would compare the two.
Again, my point was in response that Christianity, like all religions has it's extremists. None of the recent events represent the "average" or core religious viewpoint of Islam.As reasoned polite debate is impossible without resort to low quality responses, I shall leave you to your squabbles.
I was just pointing out that the Islamists seem to have industrialised murder. They seem to be able to kill far more innocent civilians on a daily basis than any other terrorist group in history.
Catweazle said:
Over half the death toll from 7/7. Very sad.Thankyou4calling said:
Funkycoldribena said:
You can go to Fallujah for all I care, but dont expect Thomas Cook to bail you out of your stupidity when it goes tits up.
Fallujah is in Iraq!! I asked about Sousse, perhaps Hammamet but don't be silly.don4l said:
I was just pointing out that the Islamists seem to have industrialised murder. They seem to be able to kill far more innocent civilians on a daily basis than any other terrorist group in history.
Conveniently overlooking the entire 20th century there, Don.Islam didn't have a hand in the First World War, Stalin's terror, the Second World War, or the Great Leap Forward - anywhere between 150 to 190 *million* dead - and during the Cold War we were quite prepared to exterminate everyone else on the planet
ISIS/ISIL and their hangers-on are a nasty bunch of psychopaths, but compared to the damage the non-Muslim population has managed to inflict on itself over the past century, they're insignificant.
don4l said:
I'm sorry that you feel that my answer was "low quality".
I was just pointing out that the Islamists seem to have industrialised murder. They seem to be able to kill far more innocent civilians on a daily basis than any other terrorist group in history.
And who are the people who suffer most from this 'industrial' killing? Who are the people who have died in the largest numbers, on a daily basis in Iraq/Syria, indeed any country where IS has a presence? Other Muslims. Do you honestly think that those ordinary people whom are slaughtered on a daily basis in Syria or Iraq (that we have become oblivious too) have any sympathy with extremism and violence?I was just pointing out that the Islamists seem to have industrialised murder. They seem to be able to kill far more innocent civilians on a daily basis than any other terrorist group in history.
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