Michael Schumacher hurt skiing
Discussion
craigjm said:
robinessex said:
I wish the media would stop publishing stuff like "15 doctors are looking after him". He just needs regular nursing and the occasional doctor checkup.
How do you know that? robinessex said:
craigjm said:
robinessex said:
I wish the media would stop publishing stuff like "15 doctors are looking after him". He just needs regular nursing and the occasional doctor checkup.
How do you know that? HustleRussell said:
I think you underestimate the determination and ambition of Michaels family to do anything at any cost that can improve Michael's condition or quality of life. I am by no means an expert and I have no expert sources but I reckon that any normal person suffering Michael's injury with the same outcome would basically be receiving palliative care. The Schumacher family appear to have been at pains to explore any avenue which may yield any kind of improvement as demonstrated by this apparent round of stem cell(?) treatment.
If you have got the cash why not, We explored other treatments when my dad got ill with C. Luckily we found a specialist in London who was NHS and they sent the Chemo to his hospital for free (different type of Chemo to the normal one) it prolonged the inevitable. AJB88 said:
HustleRussell said:
I think you underestimate the determination and ambition of Michaels family to do anything at any cost that can improve Michael's condition or quality of life. I am by no means an expert and I have no expert sources but I reckon that any normal person suffering Michael's injury with the same outcome would basically be receiving palliative care. The Schumacher family appear to have been at pains to explore any avenue which may yield any kind of improvement as demonstrated by this apparent round of stem cell(?) treatment.
If you have got the cash why not, We explored other treatments when my dad got ill with C. Luckily we found a specialist in London who was NHS and they sent the Chemo to his hospital for free (different type of Chemo to the normal one) it prolonged the inevitable. Sadly I think Michael is probably minimally conscious and his condition is unlikely to improve in any significant way.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29929361-beyon...
The book in the link is well worth a read about a fit young man who had a bad snow-boarding accident and brain injury. I'm not saying Michael's situation is exactly the same but it gives a real idea of the sort of issues the Schumacher family is probably facing.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29929361-beyon...
The book in the link is well worth a read about a fit young man who had a bad snow-boarding accident and brain injury. I'm not saying Michael's situation is exactly the same but it gives a real idea of the sort of issues the Schumacher family is probably facing.
robinessex said:
craigjm said:
robinessex said:
I wish the media would stop publishing stuff like "15 doctors are looking after him". He just needs regular nursing and the occasional doctor checkup.
How do you know that? Back just after this accident happened there was a poster in these forums with professional experience of dealing with head injuries explaining the severity of MS's brain damage.I cannot recall all the specifics now, but a key pointer to the severity being the depth of the injuries within the brain. I suppose the posts must be on here somewhere, and the key to his/her observations were brain scans from the hospital treating MS.
I well recall seeing the accident scene after he had been taken to hospital, and was shocked at the amount of blood in the snow, and thinking , thats fatal surely? The fact that his helmet was split in half helped to endorse that view.
I really would like to take a positive view of matters, but there is part of my mind that has thought from the early days of the accident, that it would been the best for all, particularly MS if we had been reading an obituary the day after. The obsessive secrecy over him by family does seem extreme and it does make you wonder if its in his wider best interest.
Unfortunately I have had experience of a friend with catastrophic brain damage kept alive , basically for the sake of it, by a family member who could not face up to the fact of the matter, or face the responsiblity of acting for the best interest of the patient and not themselves. Not saying that MS's case is as severe, but I'd wager it's not a mile away from it. It's all very , very sad.
I well recall seeing the accident scene after he had been taken to hospital, and was shocked at the amount of blood in the snow, and thinking , thats fatal surely? The fact that his helmet was split in half helped to endorse that view.
I really would like to take a positive view of matters, but there is part of my mind that has thought from the early days of the accident, that it would been the best for all, particularly MS if we had been reading an obituary the day after. The obsessive secrecy over him by family does seem extreme and it does make you wonder if its in his wider best interest.
Unfortunately I have had experience of a friend with catastrophic brain damage kept alive , basically for the sake of it, by a family member who could not face up to the fact of the matter, or face the responsiblity of acting for the best interest of the patient and not themselves. Not saying that MS's case is as severe, but I'd wager it's not a mile away from it. It's all very , very sad.
Hosenbugler said:
Back just after this accident happened there was a poster in these forums with professional experience of dealing with head injuries explaining the severity of MS's brain damage.I cannot recall all the specifics now, but a key pointer to the severity being the depth of the injuries within the brain. I suppose the posts must be on here somewhere, and the key to his/her observations were brain scans from the hospital treating MS.
I well recall seeing the accident scene after he had been taken to hospital, and was shocked at the amount of blood in the snow, and thinking , thats fatal surely? The fact that his helmet was split in half helped to endorse that view.
I really would like to take a positive view of matters, but there is part of my mind that has thought from the early days of the accident, that it would been the best for all, particularly MS if we had been reading an obituary the day after. The obsessive secrecy over him by family does seem extreme and it does make you wonder if its in his wider best interest.
Unfortunately I have had experience of a friend with catastrophic brain damage kept alive , basically for the sake of it, by a family member who could not face up to the fact of the matter, or face the responsiblity of acting for the best interest of the patient and not themselves. Not saying that MS's case is as severe, but I'd wager it's not a mile away from it. It's all very , very sad.
I was in Méribel this March skiing (first time there) where did it happen? Purely from a perspective did I do that run/close to it. I well recall seeing the accident scene after he had been taken to hospital, and was shocked at the amount of blood in the snow, and thinking , thats fatal surely? The fact that his helmet was split in half helped to endorse that view.
I really would like to take a positive view of matters, but there is part of my mind that has thought from the early days of the accident, that it would been the best for all, particularly MS if we had been reading an obituary the day after. The obsessive secrecy over him by family does seem extreme and it does make you wonder if its in his wider best interest.
Unfortunately I have had experience of a friend with catastrophic brain damage kept alive , basically for the sake of it, by a family member who could not face up to the fact of the matter, or face the responsiblity of acting for the best interest of the patient and not themselves. Not saying that MS's case is as severe, but I'd wager it's not a mile away from it. It's all very , very sad.
Hosenbugler said:
Back just after this accident happened there was a poster in these forums with professional experience of dealing with head injuries explaining the severity of MS's brain damage.I cannot recall all the specifics now, but a key pointer to the severity being the depth of the injuries within the brain. I suppose the posts must be on here somewhere, and the key to his/her observations were brain scans from the hospital treating MS.
I remember along those lines too - but believe we were referring to someone who knew what they were talking about and had a blog - rather than writing onto PH directly. I could well be wrong. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/11/mich...
Article said:
Reports that Michael Schumacher is to undergo stem cell surgery within days are inaccurate, it is understood. The Schumacher family declined to comment on reports being widely published on Thursday but it is believed they would not consider any such operation during the coronavirus outbreak.
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