Lots of angry people today.

[PurpleMoonlight]

Robertj21a said:

Not at all, and I'm sure you didn't really read anything of the sort. I merely suggested that the Remainers could help [if they wanted to] so that we all felt we were pulling in the same direction.

Again, why should they when it's a direction they are being forced into against their will.

[///ajd]

Robertj21a said:

Just because economists and The City folk are so used to having everything go their way, it really is quite enlightening to see how they react when a significant number of 'plebs' think otherwise.

I don't know what you do Robert but rogering the city is not in anyones interests in the UK. They are too important to our GDP.

The losers when if financial sector gets shafted is absolutely everyone in the UK - we'll ALL be worse off - especially the 'plebs' as you call them.

[sidicks]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Again, why should they when it's a direction they are being forced into against their will.

Why would they want to hinder and make things worse for everyone, including themselves?

[PurpleMoonlight]

sidicks said:

Why would they want to hinder and make things worse for everyone, including themselves?

Irony at its best .....

[chow pan toon]

sidicks said:

Why would they want to hinder and make things worse for everyone, including themselves?

Quite, the retiree and dole bludger leavers can sort out the country on their own

[///ajd]

PurpleMoonlight said:

sidicks said:

Why would they want to hinder and make things worse for everyone, including themselves?

Irony at its best .....

No kidding. Many still haven't realised it yet it seems.

[blueg33]

230TE said:

///ajd said:

Exactly. There is a clear knowledge and expertise deficit amongst many. Loathsome Leadmum being a case in point - and she's the best they could muster.....

I rather doubt whether anyone on here is in a position of sufficient influence to "sort out the problems created" unless one of the more vocal Leave advocates is actually Andrea Leadsom under a pseudonym. Does she drive a PH-type car? I suppose if both sides were to declare tomorrow "No Brexit Arguing Day" and do some work instead, national productivity might improve.

Much of the crap doesn't get sorted at a macro level, it gets sorted by companies making changes. We are already changing, but sadly some may lose their jobs, some orders get cancelled, we invest less.

But all that really is the problem rather than the solution. I'm not sure there is a solution to leaving one of the strongest trade organisations in the world.

[sidicks]

chow pan toon said:

Quite, the retiree and dole bludger leavers can sort out the country on their own

[ATG]

Robertj21a said:

chow pan toon said:

So we can't refer to Brexiteers as racists or thickos but its OK to smear the other side, got it.

Perhaps if the Remainers ever get to the point of stopping their incessant whingeing, we might just ALL be able to work together to improve the country for the longer term.

Some of us were working to improve the country before this moronic decision. We'll continue to do so, but we're now playing a substantially worse hand.

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

But its OK when the insult was going the other way only a few posts above? I only pointed to the leaders of the campaign whereas many here are quick to make it personal to posters directly. It says volumes about them.

I get a hard time on here as point out how daft this vote is on a regular basis - those who voted leave don't like to see what a total clusterfck their vote has unleashed on the country - with fck all leadership to carry it through. They are in denial about the consequences.

And this is a thread where they thought they would do some gloating.

You do know that most people on here do not appear to regret voting leave and your manic posting isn't likely to change that. My vote hasn't "unleashed" anything. (Aside from a load of vitriol from the other side)

There has been a lot of gloating, but for me it's been more amusing. I have to admire the tenacity of some posters, but eventually you will run out of steam and come to accept things. I would suggest coming to terms with it sooner rather than later for the sake of your own state of mind.

[blueg33]

ATG said:

Robertj21a said:

chow pan toon said:

So we can't refer to Brexiteers as racists or thickos but its OK to smear the other side, got it.

Perhaps if the Remainers ever get to the point of stopping their incessant whingeing, we might just ALL be able to work together to improve the country for the longer term.

Some of us were working to improve the country before this moronic decision. We'll continue to do so, but we're now playing a substantially worse hand.

Probably the single best summary I have seen.

[chow pan toon]

bmw535i said:

You do know that most people on here do not appear to regret voting leave and your manic posting isn't likely to change that. My vote hasn't "unleashed" anything. (Aside from a load of vitriol from the other side)

There has been a lot of gloating, but for me it's been more amusing. I have to admire the tenacity of some posters, but eventually you will run out of steam and come to accept things. I would suggest coming to terms with it sooner rather than later for the sake of your own state of mind.

The asymmetric abuse seems to suggest that there's a fair bit of disquiet on the leave side. I would imagine that it will get worse as time goes on

[don4l]

V8A*ndy said:

don4l said:

A week ago the bedwetters were wailing about the impending doom that would inevitably follow the disastrous collapse of the, previously unknown, FTSE250.


There were a few hours of panic in the traitors ranks when the FTSE250 proved that, as usual, they were completely wrong and it staged a recovery.


Then, one of them noticed that an obscure property fund had temporarily suspended Trading. Oh what joy, "carry on bedwetting" the screamed in their joyous state of hysteria.

Already, they are preparing for the recovery of the property funds by telling us that we are definitely in a recession. After all, we have no figures to prove that we are not in a recession... so, boo hoo, we must be in one.

The problem that these economically illiterate experts face is that the pound has just suffered a sharp fall. When this happens there is an immediate boost to the economy.

Just look at the 12 months prior to our ERM exit. The economy grew 0.1%.

In the quarter immediately following our exit things picked up dramatically and the 12 post exit saw 3.1% growth.

So chaps. I have some really bad news for you.

Everything is absolutely fine.

Really sorry about that, but there you go.

Being totally neutral here.

The FTSE "whatever" is worth a hell of a lot less than it did prior the vote.

You claim to be neutral. It is easy enough to prove. Simply give us a good reason for leaving the EU. Then give us an equally good reason for staying.

I really do not understand why people won't do the most basic research before coming onto the Internet and posting nonsense.

On Friday 23rd of June the FTSE100 closed at 6338.

It is currently at 6590.

It is now 252 points higher.

A gain of about 4% in just two weeks.

[Jockman]

blueg33 said:

ATG said:

Robertj21a said:

chow pan toon said:

So we can't refer to Brexiteers as racists or thickos but its OK to smear the other side, got it.

Perhaps if the Remainers ever get to the point of stopping their incessant whingeing, we might just ALL be able to work together to improve the country for the longer term.

Some of us were working to improve the country before this moronic decision. We'll continue to do so, but we're now playing a substantially worse hand.

Probably the single best summary I have seen.

The trouble is 17.4m people didn't appreciate your efforts.

[230TE]

blueg33 said:

I'm not sure there is a solution to leaving one of the strongest trade organisations in the world.

If that's all we were leaving, we wouldn't be leaving. It's certainly one of the strongest protectionist trade blocs in the world, I'll give it that.

[GPSHead]

whoami said:

///ajd said:

You missed out the fact that (be it fair or not) the UK has presented itself to the world as a Nation mainly composed of small minded xenophobic isolationists who dont like "experts".

Special in the extreme.

How is it that so many of these remainers manage to be both self-righteous and self-hating? Are they the equivalent of motorists who enthusiastically demand more bus lanes, speed cameras and reduced speed limits?

"Special" indeed...apparently remainers were calling each other in deranged floods of tears on the Friday morning. Yet many of their number cannot even name a single specific thing that they like about the EU. Anyone who gets that upset over something they know so little about has got to have a screw loose. It's funny of course, in a disturbing sort of way, but it's also sad that so many of our young people have been so brainwashed into feeling guilty, merely for being alive as Westerners, that they have a tantrum and/or nervous breakdown whenever anyone actually does something nice for their country. If they hate themselves so much, then I wish they'd direct that hatred only at themselves, and not at millions of others who happen to be like them!

Some of them will grow out of it, of course, though it will take a conscious decision by each of them to start focussing on facts over emotion, and to aim to get to the truth in each case, whether it's un-PC or not. Others of them will remain permanent children who are jealous of the success of others and think everything is about their feelings. Who think that political discourse is about accusing people of xenophobia and saying "You used the wrong word to describe someone, ner ner ne ner ner, I'm better than you". Who believe that "You've offended me" is an argument. Let's hope the rest of us are too switched on to give such halfwits any real power in the future.

But for now, let's just bask in their continued hysterical sour grapes as they take their brave, rebellious protests (in favour of the establishment) into a third week. I don't think I've ever seen such sustained protest against democracy, anywhere in the world. When did hippie types start hating freedom so much?

[///ajd]

230TE said:

It's certainly one of the strongest protectionist trade blocs in the world.....

....that covers 44% of our exports.


It would be stupid to opt for a worse trade deal with such a protectionist trade bloc, wouldn't it?

[turbobloke]

///ajd said:

230TE said:

It's certainly one of the strongest protectionist trade blocs in the world.....

....that covers 44% of our exports.


It would be stupid to opt for a worse trade deal with such a protectionist trade bloc, wouldn't it?

If the deal isn't so good the price won't be so high, payment is voluntary - and there are other trade avenues beyond the EU which can be explored and expanded.

It also depends on the non-trade strings attached, as trade is only one of the considerations involved.

It's happening, so you'll / we'll find out in a few years how it works out.

[don'tbesilly]

///ajd said:

230TE said:

It's certainly one of the strongest protectionist trade blocs in the world.....

....that covers 44% of our exports.


It would be stupid to opt for a worse trade deal with such a protectionist trade bloc, wouldn't it?

It would, so to suggest that will be the outcome of the Leave vote and the subsequent negotiations that take place is in itself foolhardy indeed.

[Robertj21a]

ATG said:

Some of us were working to improve the country before this moronic decision. We'll continue to do so, but we're now playing a substantially worse hand.

Well it's good to see that there's one person helping. Shame that so few others feel the same way.