Reading your email..

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gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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They are quite welcome to read my e mail maybe they could delete all the medication props ones I get for penis enlargement as it seems neither yahoo's junk can detect them nor outlooks

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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gpo746 said:
They are quite welcome to read my e mail maybe they could delete all the medication props ones I get for penis enlargement as it seems neither yahoo's junk can detect them nor outlooks
Not so. This was the first item picked up by Google when I searched your name gpo746,




gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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haha thank you

collateral

7,238 posts

219 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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iirc facebook defaulted to https when all the firesheep hullabuloo kicked off.

From what I hear the NSA have been dumping all the SSL traffic for later decryption, although I think with FISA they don't need to get it in transit; easier to go get it from fb/ms/whomever

DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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I'm in Russia just typed meeting 10:am ..." Blackbriar"


should i be worried

scratchchin

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Prepare to be murdered.

Silent1

19,761 posts

236 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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the americans can store any encrypted traffic for later decryption (without warrants IIRC) and as a result HTTPS is brilliant for them as the law doesn't treat it like normal traffic once it's decrypted so despite the encryption being removed at interception they aren't required to get rid of it.

collateral

7,238 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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Silent1 said:
the americans can store any encrypted traffic for later decryption (without warrants IIRC) and as a result HTTPS is brilliant for them as the law doesn't treat it like normal traffic once it's decrypted so despite the encryption being removed at interception they aren't required to get rid of it.
I'm too dumb to really understand much about crypto, but there seem to be debates going on about how capable 'they' are of bruting SSL traffic captured in transit.

Seems from the slides it'd be easier to go to facebook under FISA and say 'give me all the chats x has had with y'

bitchstewie

51,839 posts

211 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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collateral said:
I'm too dumb to really understand much about crypto, but there seem to be debates going on about how capable 'they' are of bruting SSL traffic captured in transit.

Seems from the slides it'd be easier to go to facebook under FISA and say 'give me all the chats x has had with y'
If you go to Facebook and say "give me the private key you use to do SSL" it's reasonably trivial to capture and decrypt SSL in transit (when I say trivial I mean you can do it in realtime as we do it, but I have no idea if you can do it in realtime at their scale).

collateral

7,238 posts

219 months

Tuesday 6th August 2013
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bhstewie said:
collateral said:
I'm too dumb to really understand much about crypto, but there seem to be debates going on about how capable 'they' are of bruting SSL traffic captured in transit.

Seems from the slides it'd be easier to go to facebook under FISA and say 'give me all the chats x has had with y'
If you go to Facebook and say "give me the private key you use to do SSL" it's reasonably trivial to capture and decrypt SSL in transit (when I say trivial I mean you can do it in realtime as we do it, but I have no idea if you can do it in realtime at their scale).
Aha. wireshark is a fun toy, but I haven't used it for any actual work wink

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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That looks pretty outfugginrageous.

RealSquirrels

11,327 posts

193 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Of course the worst part of it is the legislation: you can be detained without suspicion for up to 9 hours without any charge. You must cooperate with questioning.. Because not cooperating is a criminal offence. Good one. I am surprised this is not bigger news this morning, haven't heard anything about it on the BBC.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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It is the BBC's second story on its radio news updates, and the second lead on its website.

RealSquirrels

11,327 posts

193 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Breadvan72 said:
It is the BBC's second story on its radio news updates, and the second lead on its website.
Ah okay, blame the listener then smile

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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I gather he was travelling with classified material and being paid by the Guardian, which wasn't in the initial piece I'd read, so I have less sympathy than I might have.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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How do you gather that?

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Twitter... they did reference this article, I couldn't say I've read it though.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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May I suggest that forming opinions based on tweets and without reading the available information is not a great idea? The NY Times article does not provide any support for detention on the basis of terrorism offences.

0000

13,812 posts

192 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Suggest all you like. I trusted the source sufficiently to assume they had read the article and from a quick glance it does look as though the Guardian paid him to travel on work for the Snowden leaks. Neither the tweet nor I suggested there was any solid reason for him to be detained under terrorism offences.

Can't really see a problem with that, quite happy to change my view if any other information becomes available, it's not like I'm going to be making any judicial decisions around it!