Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7
Discussion
technodup said:
contango said:
I personally no longer to do any business with Scotland and avoid buying their produce.
Why punish the majority, the workers and the businesses because a noisy minority of pricks make a lot of noise?
barryrs said:
Depends on how you define minority I guess.
It's less than 50% of the voting population however it's more than 1 in 3 potential customers.
That doesn't feel like a minority.
It's that sort of SNP logic which will fIt's less than 50% of the voting population however it's more than 1 in 3 potential customers.
That doesn't feel like a minority.
k us up if we let them away with it.The SNP/independence/anti English lot are a minority and always have been. Punishing Scotland because of the nutters is like the French boycotting London because 3m voted UKIP.
The silence from the pro-union Scots is pretty significant. Why don't they tell the nat nesbits to belt up and feck orf more publicly? Because all we see and hear south of the border is "English bd scum tory filth" and how we're being propped up by them and how it's time to change and "look at my Westminster chip butty". Let's hear from the unionists a bit more and maybe that'll change some opinions!
d scum tory filth" and how we're being propped up by them and how it's time to change and "look at my Westminster chip butty". Let's hear from the unionists a bit more and maybe that'll change some opinions! OpulentBob said:
The silence from the pro-union Scots is pretty significant. Why don't they tell the nat nesbits to belt up and feck orf more publicly? Because all we see and hear south of the border is "English bd scum tory filth" and how we're being propped up by them and how it's time to change and "look at my Westminster chip butty". Let's hear from the unionists a bit more and maybe that'll change some opinions!
They just get drowned out by the shouty kids at the back of the class. d scum tory filth" and how we're being propped up by them and how it's time to change and "look at my Westminster chip butty". Let's hear from the unionists a bit more and maybe that'll change some opinions! Plus it's not as newsworthy. The vast majority of my (Scottish) family and Scottish workmates are against what the SNP stand for but "quiet sensible person doesn't think the SNP's sums add up" doesn't make the headlines.
And of course in the rougher parts you keep your gob shut in case the mouth breathers get offended...
Edited by AC43 on Wednesday 3rd June 06:48
AC43 said:
OpulentBob said:
The silence from the pro-union Scots is pretty significant. Why don't they tell the nat nesbits to belt up and feck orf more publicly?
They just get drowned out by the shouty kids at the back of the class. Plus it's not as newsworthy. The vast majority of my (Scottish) family and Scottish workmates are against what the SNP stand for but "quiet sensible person doesn't think the SNP's sums add up" doesn't make the headlines.
And of course in the rougher parts you keep your gob shut in case the mouth breathers get offended...
It will of course be their undoing as politics should be about policy (the clue is in the name) and if independece were to be won the disparate band of supporters the SNP have would suddenly realise they have nothing else in common - cue civil war!
AC43 said:
I see the SNP can't resist the urge to get a dig in the death of Charles Kennedy. Such lovely, charming people.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11645...
Did you actually read what he said, or just accepted the typical Telegraph spin? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11645...
"First and for the record I have made no claim whatsoever that Charles Kennedy was either a Yes or an SNP supporter. He was not. He was a committed federalist all of his political career.
"In all of the many interviews I have conducted today I have been generous about his political contribution particularly on Iraq but also the role he could have played in the upcoming European campaign. That was not difficult. I liked Charles a great deal and he was quite the most generous politician I have ever met.
"Finally I only mentioned the Better Together campaign at all because I was asked a direct question about it. As early as the beginning of last year Charles was one of the first unionist politicians to realise that the result would be close and said publicly that he felt that the actions of the No campaign were contributing to this.
"Having put the record straight I have no intention of commenting further. Except to say this. It would be really good to concentrate political comment on the role this fine man played on Iraq, on his massive achievement as leader in 2005 of securing the best Liberal result for almost a century and the key contribution he might have played on Europe but for his tragic and untimely death."
RandomTask said:
AC43 said:
I see the SNP can't resist the urge to get a dig in the death of Charles Kennedy. Such lovely, charming people.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11645...
Did you actually read what he said, or just accepted the typical Telegraph spin? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/SNP/11645...
"First and for the record I have made no claim whatsoever that Charles Kennedy was either a Yes or an SNP supporter. He was not. He was a committed federalist all of his political career.
"In all of the many interviews I have conducted today I have been generous about his political contribution particularly on Iraq but also the role he could have played in the upcoming European campaign. That was not difficult. I liked Charles a great deal and he was quite the most generous politician I have ever met.
"Finally I only mentioned the Better Together campaign at all because I was asked a direct question about it. As early as the beginning of last year Charles was one of the first unionist politicians to realise that the result would be close and said publicly that he felt that the actions of the No campaign were contributing to this.
"Having put the record straight I have no intention of commenting further. Except to say this. It would be really good to concentrate political comment on the role this fine man played on Iraq, on his massive achievement as leader in 2005 of securing the best Liberal result for almost a century and the key contribution he might have played on Europe but for his tragic and untimely death."
You're wasting your time trying to debate with the Unionist poodles on here who let the Daily Moseley and the Torygraph do their thinking for them, all you need to know is Alex Salmond is the devil incarnate and Nicola Sturgeon is his corpse bride
Hopefully I don't think you'll find any that demented on here though that agree with some of the lunatic fringe who propose that basically the SNP killed Charles Kennedy for having the audacity of winning an election in Charle's seat
http://wingsoverscotland.com/under-rocks-and-slime...
r11co said:
This. Allover. Everyday! Plus the SNP and their supporters have cornered the market in victimisation - they have polarised everything into 'us' and 'them' and created artificial distinctions to re-inforce the siege mentality (like coining the meaningless and artificial term 'Red Tories' to turn left-wing voters against left-wing parties and into the arms of the cult of SNP).
It will of course be their undoing as politics should be about policy (the clue is in the name) and if independece were to be won the disparate band of supporters the SNP have would suddenly realise they have nothing else in common - cue civil war!
This needs published somewhere.It will of course be their undoing as politics should be about policy (the clue is in the name) and if independece were to be won the disparate band of supporters the SNP have would suddenly realise they have nothing else in common - cue civil war!
technodup said:
barryrs said:
Depends on how you define minority I guess.
It's less than 50% of the voting population however it's more than 1 in 3 potential customers.
That doesn't feel like a minority.
It's that sort of SNP logic which will fIt's less than 50% of the voting population however it's more than 1 in 3 potential customers.
That doesn't feel like a minority.
k us up if we let them away with it.The SNP/independence/anti English lot are a minority and always have been. Punishing Scotland because of the nutters is like the French boycotting London because 3m voted UKIP.
Referring to the SNP as a minority which although technically correct hides the level of support they have.
I've never been to Scotland although the wife and I have considered it several times (guaranteed sunshine won over), however knowing that 1 in 3 Scots I meet fully support independence I wonder how welcome we are likely to be.
That might be wide of the mark in reality but its the perception I am given and I dont fancy spending my money on a holiday finding out.
Salmond is an able and experienced politician. Indeed he was lauded here by the Nats as a giant who made his Westminster politicians look like pygmies.
So he was asked a question on Better Together. Big deal. He had a number of choices, including:
Given his choices, he was either being stupid or venal (or possibly even both).
So he was asked a question on Better Together. Big deal. He had a number of choices, including:
- He could have avoided it - "His stance in that debate isn't relevant and we should concentrate on his achievements"
- He could have embraced it - "He was an honourable man who fought for what he believed in. I might not have agreed with his stance, but I respected his commitment"
Given his choices, he was either being stupid or venal (or possibly even both).
OpulentBob said:
You have a dig at the established national media (who happen to be against your politics, but still have a circulation of millions) and then you quote a Wings page as if to make a serious, adult point?
Nesbitastic.
It was to save me having to type out by hand the tweets, but you keep reading your comics and using crap patter, there's a good ladNesbitastic.
barryrs said:
AstonZagato said:
But, but, but... The Edinburgh Trams are a success. We heard it here only last week from Edinburgher. Why would they need an enquiry into a success?
Self congratulatory wkfest?OpulentBob said:
The silence from the pro-union Scots is pretty significant. Why don't they tell the nat nesbits to belt up and feck orf more publicly? Because all we see and hear south of the border is "English bd scum tory filth" and how we're being propped up by them and how it's time to change and "look at my Westminster chip butty". Let's hear from the unionists a bit more and maybe that'll change some opinions!
I thought you were out in India, Bob? Living the life wishing it was pre-1947, eh? Reminiscing about days of Empire gone..... bet you're still smarting over Ireland leaving the Union. d scum tory filth" and how we're being propped up by them and how it's time to change and "look at my Westminster chip butty". Let's hear from the unionists a bit more and maybe that'll change some opinions! 
xjsdriver said:
barryrs said:
AstonZagato said:
But, but, but... The Edinburgh Trams are a success. We heard it here only last week from Edinburgher. Why would they need an enquiry into a success?
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