Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
blindswelledrat said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant b
ds.
You know when you left school and didn't get any GSCE's whilst lots of other people did?ds.That's because you are thicker than them. The result of this intellectual imbalance is that when one person thinks one thing and you think something completely different then they are probably right. As soon as you accept this you will be much happier and stop being angry at everyone else for your own failings (and alcoholism)
saaby93 said:
Something odd about the reporting on the Beeb
Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
See one of the post above about how tiny a margin regular parliamentary elections are often decided on.Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
In that context a 10% 'win' is huge/decisive.
saaby93 said:
Something odd about the reporting on the Beeb
Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
In electoral terms it is a decent margin.Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
saaby93 said:
Something odd about the reporting on the Beeb
Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
A 10 point lead is pretty significant. The Beeb have been reporting that momentous change will happen whatever the referendum result is (ie constitutional reform), so I don't think you can point fingers at the broadcasters - they have been pretty spot in in their assessments IMHO. Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
Given the massive turnout (can we even dream of such numbers in a general election?) I'm struggling to see how it can be anything but a massive show of democracy in action?
Regardless of who I agree with it's nice to see so many people care enough to vote for their future vs. the masses who just sit back and whinge whilst not having exercised their right to vote.
I think some interesting times are ahead as Pandora's box has been opened - and if Scotland (and no doubt Wales an NI) want additional say over their affairs then fair enough so long as we get the same say over matters that affect us.
Regardless of who I agree with it's nice to see so many people care enough to vote for their future vs. the masses who just sit back and whinge whilst not having exercised their right to vote.
I think some interesting times are ahead as Pandora's box has been opened - and if Scotland (and no doubt Wales an NI) want additional say over their affairs then fair enough so long as we get the same say over matters that affect us.
Piersman2 said:
And the rest of the UK , and the English particularly must be given the same powers otherwise this inequality in the union , which Salmond has now shone a spotlight on, will continue to fester and the inevitable consequence of this will be a similar nationalistic 'uprising' in England as has been seen in Scotland.
Scotland has gone and got themselves more devolution, if people in England want more devolution or regional control too, they have to do something about it. It's pointless for English people to be sitting there b
hing about Scottish whinging and having a chip on their shoulder when it's actually the Scots that are leading democratic change and debate and improving their lot. madbadger said:
Piersman2 said:
:no: Dundee is where it's at. Glasgow doesn't deserve to be considered a true part of Scotland anymore after that result, only Dundee has shown the true way.
Mmmm. Nice cakes from Dundee. 
saaby93 said:
Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
"No" got more than double the number of votes the SNP got in 2011. Interestingly enough - the SNP got 45% in that election - which is the same percentage that "Yes" got in the referendum It isn't - it's 55:45
That election result was reported as an "emphatic win", "a victory for a society and a nation", "historic result", "stunning SNP election Victory".
Funny how the outcome of a vote can change just based on the way the votes are counted. Had this vote been counted based on the outcome of each ward individually (i.e. First past the post - in a similar manner to a general election) - this would be hailed as a landslide victory. Yet because all the votes were thrown into the same pot - people question the validity of the win.
tomw2000 said:
saaby93 said:
Something odd about the reporting on the Beeb
Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
See one of the post above about how tiny a margin regular parliamentary elections are often decided on.Theyre running it as though theres been a huge decisive victory.
It isn't - it's 55:45
When you think of the numbers involved thats a huge number wanting out
There has to be a significant shift in policy somewhere
In that context a 10% 'win' is huge/decisive.
If it was 55:45 would they be running with a huge majority for the yes campaign?
To be a significant majority surely it has to be at least 75:25 and preferably 90:10
What is significant here is that it's not far off 50:50
johnnyBv8 said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
This is the kind of view that shames Scotland. Glasgow was a yes, but there are still a significant proportion of no voters in Glasgow. The country was fairly split....an outcome in any area doesn't represent everyone in that area! In regard to your embarrassing "chuffing foreigners" comment, you presumably didn't really bother yourself with understanding the policies and plan behind your vote; King Salmond's plan included significantly increasing immigration by non-Scots to support the economy.ds.
Oakey said:
johnnyBv8 said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
This is the kind of view that shames Scotland. Glasgow was a yes, but there are still a significant proportion of no voters in Glasgow. The country was fairly split....an outcome in any area doesn't represent everyone in that area! In regard to your embarrassing "chuffing foreigners" comment, you presumably didn't really bother yourself with understanding the policies and plan behind your vote; King Salmond's plan included significantly increasing immigration by non-Scots to support the economy.ds.
blindswelledrat said:
rumpelstiltskin said:
Result was never going to be any different,Edinburgh full of Anglified Scots posh knob-ends and Aberdeen full of pople who've battered their heads off granite a bit too often while ofcourse reeking of fish.Good old Glasgae thou,never ever change,true Scots city through and through.Too many chuffing foreigners in the country now anyway to care where Scotland goes.Nice to hear the 'Jock' term showing it's pretty head again on this thread,ignorant bds.
You know when you left school and didn't get any GSCE's whilst lots of other people did?ds.That's because you are thicker than them. The result of this intellectual imbalance is that when one person thinks one thing and you think something completely different then they are probably right. As soon as you accept this you will be much happier and stop being angry at everyone else for your own failings (and alcoholism)
Thank-you Scotland, the rUK do love you and we're delighted you are sticking about. Livened up politics and now looks like power balance will be changing across the whole of the UK. It's good to see the considered many still outway the deluded, leading to a decent majority. What impact did the YES vote leading the polls a couple of weekends ago have? Does make you wonder if it galvanised more NO's to vote faced with this reality. Long may the English/Scots lovin' continue
el stovey said:
Piersman2 said:
And the rest of the UK , and the English particularly must be given the same powers otherwise this inequality in the union , which Salmond has now shone a spotlight on, will continue to fester and the inevitable consequence of this will be a similar nationalistic 'uprising' in England as has been seen in Scotland.
Scotland has gone and got themselves more devolution, if people in England want more devolution or regional control too, they have to do something about it. It's pointless for English people to be sitting there b
hing about Scottish whinging and having a chip on their shoulder when it's actually the Scots that are leading democratic change and debate and improving their lot. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff