Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result (Vol 2)
Discussion
Mrr T said:
So EU immigration was rising before the referendum. A consequence I am sure of the removal of work restrictions on the A2 countries. I expect it will jump sharply after the brexit vote.
We've already had the Brexit vote! You have absolutely no idea what you're on about do you?
bmw535i said:
It was a very difficult post to understand with the broken English used, but it looks like you agree that there are immigrants working here cash in hand.
I still don't understand why you think there would be a surge in immigration post referendum though.
Insinuation of people who are living in the uk before the uk leaving would have an automatic right to remain.I still don't understand why you think there would be a surge in immigration post referendum though.
Typical remainer politics, long term - immigration will reduce when we leave. Short term may be a spike.
BBC R4 had a discussion about migrant fruit pickers this morning. They were suggesting that Poles feel less welcome than before the Brexit vote. Next year we could have a big problem with fruit rotting in the fields.
Trying to get to the real truth is as difficult with the BBC as it is with the Mail. One little snipped revealed that the weaker pound meant that they can earn more in Scandanavia.
Trying to get to the real truth is as difficult with the BBC as it is with the Mail. One little snipped revealed that the weaker pound meant that they can earn more in Scandanavia.
don4l said:
BBC R4 had a discussion about migrant fruit pickers this morning. They were suggesting that Poles feel less welcome than before the Brexit vote. Next year we could have a big problem with fruit rotting in the fields.
Trying to get to the real truth is as difficult with the BBC as it is with the Mail. One little snipped revealed that the weaker pound meant that they can earn more in Scandanavia.
Not alot of fruit to pick in Scandinavia. Unless you are a Lingonberry specialist.Trying to get to the real truth is as difficult with the BBC as it is with the Mail. One little snipped revealed that the weaker pound meant that they can earn more in Scandanavia.
Mrr T said:
You posted a link to a BBC news report which quoted a politician saying FOML made it harder to deport EU criminals. The report gave no idea what those rules are.
So not being obtuse just asking you back up a post with some real evidence.
My view is I cannot see any EU rules stopping us from deporting EU or non EU criminals.
The human rights act.So not being obtuse just asking you back up a post with some real evidence.
My view is I cannot see any EU rules stopping us from deporting EU or non EU criminals.
The European convention on human rights - article 8 quite often
UN convention relating to refugee status
EU law is used to resist deportation far more than the HR act. Shock
bmw535i said:
Mrr T said:
So EU immigration was rising before the referendum. A consequence I am sure of the removal of work restrictions on the A2 countries. I expect it will jump sharply after the brexit vote.
We've already had the Brexit vote! You have absolutely no idea what you're on about do you?
So lets see the figures published in March and June 2017.
s2art said:
Because anyone thinking of coming here might accelerate their plans on the assumption that if they are here pre-Brexit, different rules would apply to them.
That's probably true - shame that MrT couldn't answer it. I wonder if those already here who purport to have suffered hate crimes and say they're leaving will cancel out this possible surge. We'll have to wait for the figures I guess.bmw535i said:
Mrr T said:
You posted a link to a BBC news report which quoted a politician saying FOML made it harder to deport EU criminals. The report gave no idea what those rules are.
So not being obtuse just asking you back up a post with some real evidence.
My view is I cannot see any EU rules stopping us from deporting EU or non EU criminals.
The human rights act.So not being obtuse just asking you back up a post with some real evidence.
My view is I cannot see any EU rules stopping us from deporting EU or non EU criminals.
The European convention on human rights - article 8 quite often
UN convention relating to refugee status
EU law is used to resist deportation far more than the HR act. Shock
Even when we leave the EU, we won't be leaving the ECHR
bmw535i said:
Mrr T said:
You posted a link to a BBC news report which quoted a politician saying FOML made it harder to deport EU criminals. The report gave no idea what those rules are.
So not being obtuse just asking you back up a post with some real evidence.
My view is I cannot see any EU rules stopping us from deporting EU or non EU criminals.
The human rights act.So not being obtuse just asking you back up a post with some real evidence.
My view is I cannot see any EU rules stopping us from deporting EU or non EU criminals.
The European convention on human rights - article 8 quite often
UN convention relating to refugee status
EU law is used to resist deportation far more than the HR act. Shock
The human rights act. – UK Law
The European convention on human rights - article 8 quite often – UK treaty and nothing to do with the EU.
UN convention relating to refugee status - UK treaty and nothing to do with the EU.
EU law is used to resist deportation far more than the HR act. Shock – So provide some evidence so far you have quoted UK law and international treaties when you said EU laws.
bmw535i said:
jonnyb said:
Sorry to butt in, but you do know the ECHR isn't an "EU" thing don't you?
Even when we leave the EU, we won't be leaving the ECHR
Perhaps not, but if we repeal the human rights act, it's a possibility we can leave the ECHREven when we leave the EU, we won't be leaving the ECHR
s2art said:
Its certainly being discussed. Remember the 'British Bill of Rights'? So we might well leave the ECHR.
Really? would that be such a good thing? you only have to look at http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240148734/Web-... and imagine what the British bill of rights could turn in toMrr T said:
You said EU laws.
The human rights act. – UK Law
The European convention on human rights - article 8 quite often – UK treaty and nothing to do with the EU.
UN convention relating to refugee status - UK treaty and nothing to do with the EU.
EU law is used to resist deportation far more than the HR act. Shock – So provide some evidence so far you have quoted UK law and international treaties when you said EU laws.
Have a read The human rights act. – UK Law
The European convention on human rights - article 8 quite often – UK treaty and nothing to do with the EU.
UN convention relating to refugee status - UK treaty and nothing to do with the EU.
EU law is used to resist deportation far more than the HR act. Shock – So provide some evidence so far you have quoted UK law and international treaties when you said EU laws.
https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-and-human-rights/
chrispmartha said:
bmw535i said:
jonnyb said:
Sorry to butt in, but you do know the ECHR isn't an "EU" thing don't you?
Even when we leave the EU, we won't be leaving the ECHR
Perhaps not, but if we repeal the human rights act, it's a possibility we can leave the ECHREven when we leave the EU, we won't be leaving the ECHR
jonnyb said:
s2art said:
jonnyb said:
Even when we leave the EU, we won't be leaving the ECHR
Its certainly being discussed. Remember the 'British Bill of Rights'? So we might well leave the ECHR.https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/14/c...
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