Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[NoNeed]

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

I don't know where the troll finds them all

[General Price]

SNP independence model ‘broken beyond repair’

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/snp-inde...

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

Are you out of contract, simoid? Been busy here lately.

[Edinburger]

NoNeed said:

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

I don't know where the troll finds them all

We've seen Tweedledumb and here is Tweedledumber...

[Edinburger]

General Price said:

SNP independence model ‘broken beyond repair’

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/politics/snp-inde...

So what do we read from that?

- He's absolutely right that the case for independence is dead
- It's incredibly important that the SNP do restructure to provide that "credible alternative" or they will lose face and quickly lose support
- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this 9as I've been saying in ever volume) although the new Scottish income tax will finally provide some answers
- I'm not sure that there is an explicit party policy to reverse all cuts upon independence (which won't happen anyway)

It is an important time for the SNP to morph the policy and the party before losing credibility.

Over to you lot...

[General Price]

Edinburger said:

NoNeed said:

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

I don't know where the troll finds them all

We've seen Tweedledumb and here is Tweedledumber...

Pleased to see you Tweedledumber,don't put yourself down.

[Edinburger]

General Price said:

Edinburger said:

NoNeed said:

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

I don't know where the troll finds them all

We've seen Tweedledumb and here is Tweedledumber...

Pleased to see you Tweedledumber,don't put yourself down.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

Are you out of contract, simoid? Been busy here lately.

I'm as busy as I want to be: just finished up on this project for this year as it happens. How very perceptive of you

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this

Provide some (any) credible evidence to support the assertion that "Scotland earns enough to pay for its current level of spending", please.

[Alpacaman]

I think Nicola Sturgeon has joined the better together campaign, today she said

"We are stronger when united and that is one of our strengths"

or is she just a hypocrite? We are stronger when united when it suits her and she is trying to get her face in the papers.

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

Are you out of contract, simoid? Been busy here lately.

I'm as busy as I want to be: just finished up on this project for this year as it happens. How very perceptive of you

Aye, you vanished for a while and I did notice that. A few new kids on the block appeared and the quality of 'debate' plummeted to new depths from time to time. Hey ho.

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

r11co said:

As squirrels go 'burger, that was a particularly large one with a noticeably bushy tail.

What were we talking about again...?

Are you out of contract, simoid? Been busy here lately.

I'm as busy as I want to be: just finished up on this project for this year as it happens. How very perceptive of you

Just noted the link - very funny!!!

I was just glad there was a 'u' in the last word...

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this

Provide some (any) credible evidence to support the assertion that "Scotland earns enough to pay for its current level of spending", please.

I refer you to Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3, Volume 4, Volume 5, Volume 6 and Volume 7 of this 'debate' and you'll see it's been covered umpteen times.

[AstonZagato]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this

Provide some (any) credible evidence to support the assertion that "Scotland earns enough to pay for its current level of spending", please.

I refer you to Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3, Volume 4, Volume 5, Volume 6 and Volume 7 of this 'debate' and you'll see it's been covered umpteen times.

Indeed and it was always shown that Scotland does NOT earn enough to maintain spending without borrowing or taxing.

Unless you have some new evidence.

[General Price]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this

Provide some (any) credible evidence to support the assertion that "Scotland earns enough to pay for its current level of spending", please.

I refer you to Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3, Volume 4, Volume 5, Volume 6 and Volume 7 of this 'debate' and you'll see it's been covered umpteen times.

You missed the bit in bold.

[gofasterrosssco]

Alpacaman said:

http://rattle.scot/snp-independence-is-dead-start-...

As burger would say an interesting read.

Good article, and this nails the whole referedum to me:

"This isn’t about Scotland, its about the SNP"

[gofasterrosssco]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this

Provide some (any) credible evidence to support the assertion that "Scotland earns enough to pay for its current level of spending", please.

I refer you to Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3, Volume 4, Volume 5, Volume 6 and Volume 7 of this 'debate' and you'll see it's been covered umpteen times.

Have a read at this, and feel free to ask any questions if the (basic) maths goes over your head..

http://chokkablog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/full-fisc...

(Its all based on GERS figures, BTW..)

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this

Provide some (any) credible evidence to support the assertion that "Scotland earns enough to pay for its current level of spending", please.

I refer you to Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3, Volume 4, Volume 5, Volume 6 and Volume 7 of this 'debate' and you'll see it's been covered umpteen times.

I know, I was there. I recall no point when evidence provided to support the bold, italicised hypothesis. If you cannot support your belief that this is possible, then we must conclude that you have no right to make that assertion.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

Aye, you vanished for a while and I did notice that. A few new kids on the block appeared and the quality of 'debate' plummeted to new depths from time to time. Hey ho.

I didn't vanish anywhere, just ignored this pishy thread for a while. Sometimes it's a welcome distraction to daily life, and a good way to keep ahead of the curve with information should a Nationalist ever start their pish with me.

[NoNeed]

Trollburger said:

simoid said:

Trollburger said:

- He says "The fact is a gap exists - Scotland does not earn enough to pay for its current level of spending" but we do not know this

Provide some (any) credible evidence to support the assertion that "Scotland earns enough to pay for its current level of spending", please.

I refer you to Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3, Volume 4, Volume 5, Volume 6 and Volume 7 of this 'debate' and you'll see it's been covered umpteen times.

You must have missed the word "credible" I have never seen any and I have been here since volume 1.