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jogon said:
Anyone else watched BBC breakfast this morning?
............... while they try and explain the issues of apartheid like they are talking to a class of 7 year olds.
I was watching that and my 7 year old grandson happened to come and said "oh no, not Nelson Mandela again" so even 7 years olds are aware of the coverage and hacked off with it!!............... while they try and explain the issues of apartheid like they are talking to a class of 7 year olds.
Mandela was a totem for liberal and socialist activists during the 70s and 80s. The Vietnam war was over, the complexities of the cold war was obviously problematic for socialists, so only cruise, Thatcher and apartheid were rallying calls they could unite around.
Those same activists, including the Kenyan digger Hain, are now in positions of power & influence in politics and the media. Naturally then, for decades their view has become the prevalent prism for the broadcast media ,through which all events are filtered. This is evidenced by the BBC's coverage of things like global warming, immigration, fracking, alternative energy, UKIP, the royal family, UK foreign aid, the Church, welfare, US foreign policy, etc.
The difficulty arises when this prevalent liberal media opinion becomes obviously out of step with the conservative (small 'c'), xenophobic, traditionalist, politically dogma-free mind-set of a majority of the British public. This majority view is currently disenfranchised by the BBC, (although not in the best selling news papers like the Mail, Sun, Express, Telegraph) and it will continually give rise to issues like the BBCs Mandela coverage.
For those running the BBC, Mandela was an icon of their political development, a man who assuaged their colonial guilt by forgiving the whites, whose freedom and victory justified all their protest marches, and whose life should be therefore be marked and celebrated like no other. For most of the GBP he was a nice man who somehow managed to steer South Africa away from another of the continent's blood baths.
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Those same activists, including the Kenyan digger Hain, are now in positions of power & influence in politics and the media. Naturally then, for decades their view has become the prevalent prism for the broadcast media ,through which all events are filtered. This is evidenced by the BBC's coverage of things like global warming, immigration, fracking, alternative energy, UKIP, the royal family, UK foreign aid, the Church, welfare, US foreign policy, etc.
The difficulty arises when this prevalent liberal media opinion becomes obviously out of step with the conservative (small 'c'), xenophobic, traditionalist, politically dogma-free mind-set of a majority of the British public. This majority view is currently disenfranchised by the BBC, (although not in the best selling news papers like the Mail, Sun, Express, Telegraph) and it will continually give rise to issues like the BBCs Mandela coverage.
For those running the BBC, Mandela was an icon of their political development, a man who assuaged their colonial guilt by forgiving the whites, whose freedom and victory justified all their protest marches, and whose life should be therefore be marked and celebrated like no other. For most of the GBP he was a nice man who somehow managed to steer South Africa away from another of the continent's blood baths.
SS7
TorqueVR said:
jogon said:
Anyone else watched BBC breakfast this morning?
............... while they try and explain the issues of apartheid like they are talking to a class of 7 year olds.
I was watching that and my 7 year old grandson happened to come and said "oh no, not Nelson Mandela again" so even 7 years olds are aware of the coverage and hacked off with it!!............... while they try and explain the issues of apartheid like they are talking to a class of 7 year olds.
On Friday I was picking my granddaughter up from playschool, and you know how you chat to mums and dads and grandparents, I heard one chuckling 'Yeah, [from the primary school next door] he said he had been learning about Nelson'.
'I thought he meant Trafalgar etc, but he said no mum... Mandela!'
It would seem there's no news this morning. Put the telly on to BBC1, Funeral. Right, try BBC news channel....Bloody funeral, Try every other news channel on freeview...Funeral! All with the same camera feed so you get exactly the same picture no matter what channel you're on. The only one with news is RT.
eccles said:
It would seem there's no news this morning. Put the telly on to BBC1, Funeral. Right, try BBC news channel....Bloody funeral, Try every other news channel on freeview...Funeral! All with the same camera feed so you get exactly the same picture no matter what channel you're on. The only one with news is RT.
yup, nothing happening in the world at all 
Some news story that they should now hold an Olympics in SA in memory.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/25380550
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/25380550
Edited by jmorgan on Sunday 15th December 10:38
I've signed up to the cause of the OP.
I tuned in to Radio 4 at 9AM to listen to Paddy O'Connell's' Sunday paper round up only to find John Humphries reporting from SA, switched to 5Live, they too were reporting from SA (but not John Humphries!), tried World Service and they were the same! (I can understand it on this channel). I ended up on Radio Scotland, who, thankfully, paid lip service to SA events before cracking on with a Sunday Paper review.
Kicking the arse right out it now.
I tuned in to Radio 4 at 9AM to listen to Paddy O'Connell's' Sunday paper round up only to find John Humphries reporting from SA, switched to 5Live, they too were reporting from SA (but not John Humphries!), tried World Service and they were the same! (I can understand it on this channel). I ended up on Radio Scotland, who, thankfully, paid lip service to SA events before cracking on with a Sunday Paper review.
Kicking the arse right out it now.
I really wonder how many more complaints have been made to the BBC over the last week. Trouble is, they have shut down all feedback by responding so quickly (within 48 hours of his death) to the initial flurry of complaints. Where is their accountability to licence payers, the BBC Trust is a complete f
king joke, made up of urbanite do gooders and failed politicians who seem to answer to Parliament more than representing licence payers.
king joke, made up of urbanite do gooders and failed politicians who seem to answer to Parliament more than representing licence payers.Smiler. said:
No, it's the unique, one-off ANC Cobra.
This made me laugh! Edited by mercGLowner on Sunday 15th December 13:55
Edited by mercGLowner on Sunday 15th December 13:55
mercGLowner said:
I really wonder how many more complaints have been made to the BBC over the last week. Trouble is, they have shut down all feedback by responding so quickly (within 48 hours of his death) to the initial flurry of complaints. Where is their accountability to licence payers, the BBC Trust is a complete fking joke, made up of urbanite do gooders and failed politicians who seem to answer to Parliament more than representing licence payers.
I still complained, but at the part where it says is it regarding NM funeral, I said no and got to fill in a complaint form, along with asking how they can monitor complaints if they do not let people complain ? I do not expect a reply. king joke, made up of urbanite do gooders and failed politicians who seem to answer to Parliament more than representing licence payers.Smiler. said:
No, it's the unique, one-off ANC Cobra.
This made me laugh! Edited by mercGLowner on Sunday 15th December 13:55
Edited by mercGLowner on Sunday 15th December 13:55
PRTVR said:
mercGLowner said:
I really wonder how many more complaints have been made to the BBC over the last week. Trouble is, they have shut down all feedback by responding so quickly (within 48 hours of his death) to the initial flurry of complaints. Where is their accountability to licence payers, the BBC Trust is a complete fking joke, made up of urbanite do gooders and failed politicians who seem to answer to Parliament more than representing licence payers.
I still complained, but at the part where it says is it regarding NM funeral, I said no and got to fill in a complaint form, along with asking how they can monitor complaints if they do not let people complain ? I do not expect a reply. king joke, made up of urbanite do gooders and failed politicians who seem to answer to Parliament more than representing licence payers.Smiler. said:
No, it's the unique, one-off ANC Cobra.
This made me laugh! Edited by mercGLowner on Sunday 15th December 13:55
Edited by mercGLowner on Sunday 15th December 13:55
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