Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)

Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)

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S600BSB

5,127 posts

108 months

Sunday 17th March
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Wombat3 said:
S600BSB said:
And Onebat has just confirmed it. Garbage.
Are we feeling a little fractious today? hehe
I am actually! Still fighting my way back from Lyon after the rugby.

julian987R

6,840 posts

61 months

Wednesday 20th March
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Don’t they even do back ground checks anymore?!


https://order-order.com/2024/03/19/dog-abuser-work...

hidetheelephants

25,035 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th March
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julian987R said:
Don’t they even do back ground checks anymore?!


https://order-order.com/2024/03/19/dog-abuser-work...
What's your point?

Should MPs and candidates put all employees and volunteers through CRB checks despite there being no obvious need outside prurient tabloid nonsense?

Why shouldn't people who have served a prison sentence be allowed to live their lives other than in sackcloth and ashes or one of those funny suits covered on arrows?

julian987R

6,840 posts

61 months

Wednesday 20th March
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hidetheelephants said:
What's your point?

Should MPs and candidates put all employees and volunteers through CRB checks despite there being no obvious need outside prurient tabloid nonsense?

Why shouldn't people who have served a prison sentence be allowed to live their lives other than in sackcloth and ashes or one of those funny suits covered on arrows?
For most yes, but for those who have so poorly treated defenceless animals to such suffering then there is no redemption in my book.


hidetheelephants

25,035 posts

195 months

Wednesday 20th March
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julian987R said:
For most yes, but for those who have so poorly treated defenceless animals to such suffering then there is no redemption in my book.
Better lobby your MP to change the law then.

julian987R

6,840 posts

61 months

Thursday 21st March
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hidetheelephants said:
Better lobby your MP to change the law then.
Damn straight.

anonymoususer

5,991 posts

50 months

Thursday 21st March
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https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-...

Owen Jones has quit Labour
A sad loss a brilliant debater whose Question Time appearances were the stuff of legend.
His appearances on the Jeremy Vine show were compulsive viewing and propelled the Vine show up the ratings
It can only be hoped that sir Keir can find some way to entice this working class champion back into the party.

Bring him home Sir Keir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6lZ42QaTXk

768

13,824 posts

98 months

Thursday 21st March
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Even Owen Jones thinks this Labour party are st.

He still wants Labour to be in power next though, he's just encouraging a protest against a party who hasn't even won yet. How very Labour.

President Merkin

3,370 posts

21 months

Thursday 21st March
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I suspect Owen Jones' high opinion of himself is tied into the hysterical attention he receives incessantly from people who disagree with him.

NerveAgent

3,365 posts

222 months

Thursday 21st March
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768 said:
Even Owen Jones thinks this Labour party are st.

He still wants Labour to be in power next though, he's just encouraging a protest against a party who hasn't even won yet. How very Labour.
Owen Jones quitting the Labour Party is surely great news for the Labour Party?

tangerine_sedge

4,857 posts

220 months

Thursday 21st March
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julian987R said:
hidetheelephants said:
What's your point?

Should MPs and candidates put all employees and volunteers through CRB checks despite there being no obvious need outside prurient tabloid nonsense?

Why shouldn't people who have served a prison sentence be allowed to live their lives other than in sackcloth and ashes or one of those funny suits covered on arrows?
For most yes, but for those who have so poorly treated defenceless animals to such suffering then there is no redemption in my book.
I look forward to your forensic examination of similar stories when it applies to reform candidates. I'm sure there will be some good ones in the lead up to the next GE as they scramble to get candidates.

ChocolateFrog

25,846 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st March
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anonymoususer said:
https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-...

Owen Jones has quit Labour
A sad loss a brilliant debater whose Question Time appearances were the stuff of legend.
His appearances on the Jeremy Vine show were compulsive viewing and propelled the Vine show up the ratings
It can only be hoped that sir Keir can find some way to entice this working class champion back into the party.

Bring him home Sir Keir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6lZ42QaTXk
Came here to post this.

Could be a double bluff but it's music to my ears that I won't be voting the same way as that imbecile.

ChocolateFrog

25,846 posts

175 months

Thursday 21st March
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NerveAgent said:
768 said:
Even Owen Jones thinks this Labour party are st.

He still wants Labour to be in power next though, he's just encouraging a protest against a party who hasn't even won yet. How very Labour.
Owen Jones quitting the Labour Party is surely great news for the Labour Party?
I'd certainly take it as a win if I was KS.

JagLover

42,613 posts

237 months

Thursday 21st March
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anonymoususer said:
https://www.theoldhamtimes.co.uk/news/national/uk-...

Owen Jones has quit Labour
A sad loss a brilliant debater whose Question Time appearances were the stuff of legend.
His appearances on the Jeremy Vine show were compulsive viewing and propelled the Vine show up the ratings
It can only be hoped that sir Keir can find some way to entice this working class champion back into the party.

Bring him home Sir Keir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6lZ42QaTXk
How will Starmer do without one of the intellectual titans of our age?

768

13,824 posts

98 months

Thursday 21st March
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JagLover said:
How will Starmer do without one of the intellectual titans of our age?
Richard Burgon stands ready.

valiant

10,438 posts

162 months

Thursday 21st March
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NerveAgent said:
768 said:
Even Owen Jones thinks this Labour party are st.

He still wants Labour to be in power next though, he's just encouraging a protest against a party who hasn't even won yet. How very Labour.
Owen Jones quitting the Labour Party is surely great news for the Labour Party?
Its no loss.

Jones was a Corbynite who still can't accept his man lost and has spent the last 4 years sniping from the sidelines.

When you're upsetting people like this it shows you're generally getting things right. Starmer definitely will not care one iota over this.

bitchstewie

51,971 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st March
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So it's bad that people like Owen Jones are in the Labour Party but it's bad when people like Owen Jones leave the Labour Party.

Tough crowd hehe

Baroque attacks

4,526 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st March
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valiant said:
NerveAgent said:
768 said:
Even Owen Jones thinks this Labour party are st.

He still wants Labour to be in power next though, he's just encouraging a protest against a party who hasn't even won yet. How very Labour.
Owen Jones quitting the Labour Party is surely great news for the Labour Party?
Its no loss.

Jones was a Corbynite who still can't accept his man lost and has spent the last 4 years sniping from the sidelines.

When you're upsetting people like this it shows you're generally getting things right. Starmer definitely will not care one iota over this.
I think a fair amount of the grumpiness from OJ is that he’s fading into irrelevance now, everyone’s favourite grandpa was his ticket to more exposure, things have changed.

JagLover

42,613 posts

237 months

Thursday 21st March
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768 said:
Richard Burgon stands ready.
His time has come biggrin

(anyone got THAT picture)

BOR

4,725 posts

257 months

Thursday 21st March
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There are plenty of us lefty scum who think the same as Owen Jones.

We will wake up to an election landslide that we have dreamed of, but instead of opening the champagne(the only thing our sort drink) we will just shrug and go back to sleep.

What will change?

Unless our wet-dream comes true, and Starmer is just presenting a New Tory face to mop up more of the electorate, then he is just a Continuation Rishi but with longer trousers.

Maybe not as inept and venal, but are there any signs, any signs at all that we can latch onto, that might give us a slight hope that there will be any attempts to rebalance the country economically and socially?

Any more hospitals? Any investment in schools ? Any pot-holes being filled in, even just some of the small ones?

It all looks about a real as the latest photos of Princess Kate.