Iran - Israel War
Discussion
Car bon said:
JJJ. said:
Yes, you have point but it's not a reason not to go down the path of a two state solution if that's what the majority of Palestinians and Israeli's agree to.
What other options are there...bad actors or not.
A one state solution ?What other options are there...bad actors or not.
Treat everyone as an equal - a bit radical I know..... give every within the Israel border citizenship
Car bon said:
JJJ. said:
Yes, you have point but it's not a reason not to go down the path of a two state solution if that's what the majority of Palestinians and Israeli's agree to.
What other options are there...bad actors or not.
A one state solution ?What other options are there...bad actors or not.
Treat everyone as an equal - a bit radical I know..... give every within the Israel border citizenship
s1962a said:
vaud said:
s1962a said:
Considering all their toy drones were shot down, what exactly are they going to retaliate with thats going to have the allies worried?
All the ones launched were shot down. Do we know how big their stockpiles are?Car bon said:
JJJ. said:
Yes, you have point but it's not a reason not to go down the path of a two state solution if that's what the majority of Palestinians and Israeli's agree to.
What other options are there...bad actors or not.
A one state solution ?What other options are there...bad actors or not.
Treat everyone as an equal - a bit radical I know..... give every within the Israel border citizenship
Car bon said:
JJJ. said:
Yes, you have point but it's not a reason not to go down the path of a two state solution if that's what the majority of Palestinians and Israeli's agree to.
What other options are there...bad actors or not.
A one state solution ?What other options are there...bad actors or not.
Treat everyone as an equal - a bit radical I know..... give every within the Israel border citizenship
skwdenyer said:
s1962a said:
Iran says it will respond to any attack with severe force. Considering all their toy drones were shot down, what exactly are they going to retaliate with thats going to have the allies worried?
Their hypersonic missiles might be an issue, if they work.And haven't Ukraine manage to shoot down Russian hypersonic missiles using Patriot?
Oliver Hardy said:
skwdenyer said:
s1962a said:
Iran says it will respond to any attack with severe force. Considering all their toy drones were shot down, what exactly are they going to retaliate with thats going to have the allies worried?
Their hypersonic missiles might be an issue, if they work.And haven't Ukraine manage to shoot down Russian hypersonic missiles using Patriot?
vaud said:
Car bon said:
Mr Penguin said:
Depends on the scale and particular religion. A fundamentalist Quaker government wouldn't be too bad.
Unless you like cars.... crofty1984 said:
vaud said:
Car bon said:
Mr Penguin said:
Depends on the scale and particular religion. A fundamentalist Quaker government wouldn't be too bad.
Unless you like cars.... crofty1984 said:
vaud said:
Car bon said:
Mr Penguin said:
Depends on the scale and particular religion. A fundamentalist Quaker government wouldn't be too bad.
Unless you like cars.... Netanyahu used to seem fairly measured and reasonable based on my limited knowledge, but he seems to have gone "full retard" of late, I know it was triggered by the horrendous events in October, but ffs man calm down a bit, take a step back.
Anyone else think that all the main players in the world, the ones that are causing all the agro are just too old and have limited skin in the game, i.e. lifespan left to live ? And are possibly suffering age related brain issues, dont want to insult older folk, in no spring chicken but surely there should be a cut off point ? National retirement age is 67 but mental dictators keep on going until they keel over.
Putin 71
Netanyahu 74
Ali Khamenei 84
Joe Biden 81
Kim in NK is quite young at 40 but wont see old age being morbidly obese, a heavy smoker and a boozer and a bit mental, he probably feels st and ill all the time, and has nuclear weapons. Imagine being his doc and having to tell him he needs to lose weight, stop smoking and drinking ?
Anyone else think that all the main players in the world, the ones that are causing all the agro are just too old and have limited skin in the game, i.e. lifespan left to live ? And are possibly suffering age related brain issues, dont want to insult older folk, in no spring chicken but surely there should be a cut off point ? National retirement age is 67 but mental dictators keep on going until they keel over.
Putin 71
Netanyahu 74
Ali Khamenei 84
Joe Biden 81
Kim in NK is quite young at 40 but wont see old age being morbidly obese, a heavy smoker and a boozer and a bit mental, he probably feels st and ill all the time, and has nuclear weapons. Imagine being his doc and having to tell him he needs to lose weight, stop smoking and drinking ?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13312873/...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2...
So it looks like Iran might be getting help from Russia, which could explain why they don't seem to be backing down.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2...
So it looks like Iran might be getting help from Russia, which could explain why they don't seem to be backing down.
s1962a said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13312873/...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2...
So it looks like Iran might be getting help from Russia, which could explain why they don't seem to be backing down.
So, Iran, Russia, NK and China Vs the West then?https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2...
So it looks like Iran might be getting help from Russia, which could explain why they don't seem to be backing down.
vaud said:
crofty1984 said:
vaud said:
Car bon said:
Mr Penguin said:
Depends on the scale and particular religion. A fundamentalist Quaker government wouldn't be too bad.
Unless you like cars.... Mr Penguin said:
Curious collection of governments who shouldn't get on but do for now. I assume MI6 and the CIA are busy causing mischief with those relationships to make things fall apart sooner rather than later.
Have said before its needs must, the losers club, always makes me think of "Bottom", Richie who has no friends cosying up to Eddie and his two social outcast mates, Dave Hedgehog and Spudgun, the uniting factor being nobody else would have anything to do with them, and if they do its because they might get something out of it, and thats China, India etc.J4CKO said:
Netanyahu used to seem fairly measured and reasonable based on my limited knowledge.....
Exactly when did Netanyahu seem 'fairly measured and reasonable' btw over his career to you? When he was inciting violence against Rabin prior to the latter being assassinated? Getting into trouble with corruption related investigations in his first term? Undermining the agreed Oslo peace negotiations and process at every turn if possible? Actively helping Hamas to ensure that palestinian support remained divided so he could flaunt the excuses to push back any reasonable negotiation for their own state? Getting into all many of shenanigans to avoid even more corruption related investigations in his later terms...? Or do you need more examples.....
isaldiri said:
J4CKO said:
Netanyahu used to seem fairly measured and reasonable based on my limited knowledge.....
Exactly when did Netanyahu seem 'fairly measured and reasonable' btw over his career to you? When he was inciting violence against Rabin prior to the latter being assassinated? Getting into trouble with corruption related investigations in his first term? Undermining the agreed Oslo peace negotiations and process at every turn if possible? Actively helping Hamas to ensure that palestinian support remained divided so he could flaunt the excuses to push back any reasonable negotiation for their own state? Getting into all many of shenanigans to avoid even more corruption related investigations in his later terms...? Or do you need more examples.....
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