Twitter user jailed for 56 days

Twitter user jailed for 56 days

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Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Oakey said:
Marf said:
The only thing I don't tolerate is intolerance. thumbup
Oooh, hark at Voltaire here. I don't agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it
Oh I'm all for freedom of speech. You're free to say what you want, just be man enough to take the punishment that the law dictates if you transgress it.

Guffy

2,313 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Obviously the guy is a complete tool and i would be quite happy to see him horsewhipped at dawn in the market square.... but prison... What a waste of tax payers money.

Even Community service would have been better, not to mention how many scrotes get away without do time for theft/drug related crime, ooooh, but they're victims of society... bks.

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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That's an amazingly rapid delivery of justice, isn't it?

Takes months to get most people in front of a beak.

Samerati

2,173 posts

148 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Have to agree with the above, prison is an extreme punishment. Community service (ideally alongside a few black fellas for some educational benefit) would have been much more suitable.

s1962a

Original Poster:

5,431 posts

164 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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BBC said:
Jim Brisbane, chief crown prosecutor for CPS Cymru-Wales, said: "Racist language is inappropriate in any setting and through any media.

"We hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law."
Watch what you say on PH!

12gauge

1,274 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Of course its stupid. No one has a right not to be offended. Dozens of things offend me each and every day. I live with it, as do most other people. If we didnt, there would be anarchy.

If I was that lad id probably come out of prison very jaded and feel compelled to do an actual crime...

12gauge

1,274 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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s1962a said:
Watch what you say on PH!
Thing is, the left wing fanatics devising this abuse of law wont stop there. Next it'll be global warming 'denialism'...


Hoofy

76,618 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Marf said:
OK some brown sauce maybe?
Racist. What next? Coloured sauce?

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Hoofy said:
Marf said:
OK some brown sauce maybe?
Racist. What next? Coloured sauce?
Hey I offered red sauce too! I mean if he really wants some white sauce with his chips I can offer mayonnaise, tartare or horseradish! If he wants yellow there's picalilly too!

I am an equal opportunities sauce offereror.

Hoofy

76,618 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Marf said:
Hoofy said:
Marf said:
OK some brown sauce maybe?
Racist. What next? Coloured sauce?
Hey I offered red sauce too! I mean if he really wants some white sauce with his chips I can offer Mayonnaise, tartare or horseradish! If he wants yellow there's picalilly too!

I am an equal opportunities sauce offereror.
It's your use of words that I find offensive.

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Hoofy said:
Marf said:
Hoofy said:
Marf said:
OK some brown sauce maybe?
Racist. What next? Coloured sauce?
Hey I offered red sauce too! I mean if he really wants some white sauce with his chips I can offer Mayonnaise, tartare or horseradish! If he wants yellow there's picalilly too!

I am an equal opportunities sauce offereror.
It's your use of words that I find offensive.
Did you choose to be offended, or is this the genuine kind of offense that getragdogleg seems to feel doesnt exist?

Hoofy

76,618 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Marf said:
Did you choose to be offended, or is this the genuine kind of offense that getragdogleg seems to feel doesnt exist?
Actually, I'm offended on behalf of black people who live in inner city ghettoes. And lesbians.

Apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Marf said:
Hoofy said:
Marf said:
OK some brown sauce maybe?
Racist. What next? Coloured sauce?
Hey I offered red sauce too! I mean if he really wants some white sauce with his chips I can offer mayonnaise, tartare or horseradish! If he wants yellow there's picalilly too!

I am an equal opportunities sauce offereror.
But you didn't did you, you went straight for the red or brown sauce without any consideration to the others....saucist! were you bullied at school by a jar of Hellermans or something

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Hoofy said:
Marf said:
Did you choose to be offended, or is this the genuine kind of offense that getragdogleg seems to feel doesnt exist?
Actually, I'm offended on behalf of black people who live in inner city ghettoes. And lesbians.
Only lesbians, what about them thar gay man folk?

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Apache said:
Marf said:
Hoofy said:
Marf said:
OK some brown sauce maybe?
Racist. What next? Coloured sauce?
Hey I offered red sauce too! I mean if he really wants some white sauce with his chips I can offer mayonnaise, tartare or horseradish! If he wants yellow there's picalilly too!

I am an equal opportunities sauce offereror.
But you didn't did you, you went straight for the red or brown sauce without any consideration to the others....saucist! were you bullied at school by a jar of Hellermans or something
Nah, it was sainsburys value mayonnaise. The hellmans mayo was far more civilised.

Mojooo

12,811 posts

182 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Got what he deeserved but maybe a week owudl have suffied - which is probably what he will serve.


Hoofy

76,618 posts

284 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Marf said:
Hoofy said:
Marf said:
Did you choose to be offended, or is this the genuine kind of offense that getragdogleg seems to feel doesnt exist?
Actually, I'm offended on behalf of black people who live in inner city ghettoes. And lesbians.
Only lesbians, what about them thar gay man folk?
Did I say lesbians? Oops. Got distracted by a video I'm watching online.

carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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The bloke clearly has issues but this is insanity. Totally out of proportion to the crime. He should have had a warning for his idiot behaviour, or a fine, but 56 days prison? Crazy. It's an unfortunate fact of life that people experience real racism every day, not to mention bullying because of disability or sexual orientation, and often far worse than a few silly words on a website, but because they aren't some football player who's been elevated to the status of a saint because he fell ill on a football pitch they don't enjoy the same protection.

Getragdogleg

8,833 posts

185 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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Marf said:
Getragdogleg said:
Marf said:
Like I said above, had he just thought it he'd not be in trouble. wink

Getragdogleg said:
I am white, if someone called me a white tt I would not give a st,
Good for you. thumbup
He should be free to type it and shout it from the rooftops, all it should do is prove he is an idiot, I like idiots when they are easy to spot it makes it easier to avoid.

Words spoken or typed do not possess the power to hurt unless the person reading or hearing them wants them to.
Wants? You're actually serious aren't you?

You don't choose to be offended[1] at a racist comment.

[1]well lefty middle class gaurdian reading folk do on behalf of others, but that doesnt count
Yes, you do choose, you choose to let stuff bother you even if that decision is conscious or not, the individual has the power to rise above any insult and know that they are the better person for not reacting to others stupididty and prejudice.

We have some bad things in our history but that is what it is, history, keep an eye on it so a not to make the same mistakes but don't expect me to apologise for it either. Move on, live now in more enlightened times. If others prove to be fools see it as a strength you have that they don't but don't let it bother you.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

163 months

Tuesday 27th March 2012
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So, prison has four functions

Punishment
Deterrent
Protection (of society)
Rehabilitation

The lad in question (who was clearly acting like a complete knob) is definitely being punished excessively.
Will the sentence actually be that much of a deterrent to others – not sure?
Is society being protected by having this lad behind bars? Well I’m certainly not going to be sleeping any better or worse as a result.
Will the lad be rehabilitated? I doubt it very much – imho he is more likely to end up in a downward spiral.

I’m not really sure there are any winners here.