BBC coverage "mind-numbingly tedious"

BBC coverage "mind-numbingly tedious"

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Alfachick

1,639 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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I also thought the BBC coverage was utter ste. Far too much time spent with "celebs" etc. Not enough time spent on the boats and the ordinary people in them, not Steve bloody Redgrave, if I had got a pound for every time they switched to that 1990s bint on his boat talking about his medals AGAIN I would have been rich. What about all the other thousands of people that had gone down for the Pagent?

I am pissed mostly cos my bloke was on the sea cadets boat and they hardly even mentioned the sea cadet organisation once during the program, when 1 in 4 of the boats in the pagent was a sea cadet boat.

Also who the bding hell did they get to do the graphics? They were terrible!

As one poster said perhaps they should have done some work previous to the pagent and had some pre recorded sections on the NORMAL people that had taken part in the pagent.

Very unimpressed with the BBC.

Eric Mc

122,294 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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dfen5 said:
I thought the whole idea and its execution was a bit 'awkward'. The rain didn't help but the presenters just didn't have a clue - I'm guessing they just turned up and made it up as the went along.
The problem with these types of events is that it is almost expected that the presenters have to make it up as they go alaong. That is why they should have had presenters who

a) knew what they were looking at
b) are able to extemporise

Not a pair of autocue slaves and a bunch of fatuous nonentities working the crowd.

GregE240

10,857 posts

269 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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It was faintly ridiculous, in all honesty. Sophie Thingy and Matt Ubiquitous making a total arse of it. It was cringingly awful. The pair of them were incapable of any degree of ad-lib whatsoever, instead resembling rabbits in headlights.

V poor. If this is the best the BBC can do, and this is the new guard, then God help us.

obob

4,193 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Yeah but it was boats going down a river how interesting can you make it? Maybe they should have some CGI blowing stuff up.

tr7v8

7,214 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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obob said:
Yeah but it was boats going down a river how interesting can you make it? Maybe they should have some CGI blowing stuff up.
Lots of interesting boats, RNLI & Dunkirk little ships for a start & people, our whole point is they ignored that & kept cutting to BBC talking heads.

Eric Mc

122,294 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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obob said:
Yeah but it was boats going down a river how interesting can you make it? Maybe they should have some CGI blowing stuff up.
They could have done a lot better.

There was a parade od ships in 1976 for the American bi-centennial and there was a parade of ships for the D-Day comemmorations in 1994.

On both occasions I don'r remember thinking, "This is boring. It's only a line of old boats".

Good presenters can make almost ANYTHING interesting.

GWC

4,423 posts

197 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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tr7v8 said:
obob said:
Yeah but it was boats going down a river how interesting can you make it? Maybe they should have some CGI blowing stuff up.
Lots of interesting boats, RNLI & Dunkirk little ships for a start & people, our whole point is they ignored that & kept cutting to BBC talking heads.
Plus all the boats in the 'Avenue of Sail', in St Katherine Docks they had Gypsy Moth IV, Suhaili, Jolie Brise etc. All very significant boats.

tr7v8

7,214 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Eric Mc said:
obob said:
Yeah but it was boats going down a river how interesting can you make it? Maybe they should have some CGI blowing stuff up.
They could have done a lot better.

There was a parade od ships in 1976 for the American bi-centennial and there was a parade of ships for the D-Day comemmorations in 1994.

On both occasions I don'r remember thinking, "This is boring. It's only a line of old boats".

Good presenters can make almost ANYTHING interesting.
Quite, Raymond Baxter was a past master at this, no alas gone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPEEAtu0lw


GWC

4,423 posts

197 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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They're at it again, Jake Humphrey and Fearne Cotton gabbing on to someone called Angela (who she)?

Eric Mc

122,294 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Baxter is my shining example. A chap who knew his history, his aircraft, his motor sport and rallying and who also knew his boats. Indeed, he bought and restored a Dunkirk Small Ship and made the annual pilgrimage to Dunkirk right until the year he died.

As far as I know the boat is still in the family and could very well have been part of the pageant. Now, wouldn't that have been ironic if an ex-BBC royal occasion commentator's boat was in the pageant and none of the modern royal occasion presenters were aware of that?

Although Baxter is gone, there ARE people out there who could do what he did as well as he did it. It just seems that the TV companies are either not aware of these people or simply ignore them. What is doubly ironic is that some of these people already work for the media. I have already mentioned Dan Snow who would have been excellent - especially for the HMS Belfast segment.

Guess what - a quick internet search not only reveals that Baxter's boat (L'Orage)was in the procession - it actually was LEADING it.

My contempt for the coverage only deepens.

Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 5th June 12:13

rohrl

8,764 posts

147 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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I thought that the presentation by Matt Baker and Sophie Raworth was the most insipid and vacuous TV I've watched in years.

Anyone else notice currently ubiquitous dimwit Will.i.am appearing on stage with Steve Poter and addressing the Queen as "Your highness"?

Apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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To be fair the BBC, like its commercial, peers are more interested in ratings so they cater for the majority which, unfortunately, consists of mouth breathers with short attention spans not historically grounded chaps such as yourself. Ergo FFC

GWC

4,423 posts

197 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Eric Mc said:
As far as I know the boat is still in the family and could very well have been part of the pageant. Now, wouldn't that have been ironic if an ex-BBC royal occasion commentator's boat was in the pageant and none of the modern royal occasion presenters were aware of that?
His boat was L'Orage which was part of the flotilla.

Eric Mc

122,294 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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GWC said:
Eric Mc said:
As far as I know the boat is still in the family and could very well have been part of the pageant. Now, wouldn't that have been ironic if an ex-BBC royal occasion commentator's boat was in the pageant and none of the modern royal occasion presenters were aware of that?
His boat was L'Orage which was part of the flotilla.
See the latter part of the post you have quoted.

MiniMan64

17,046 posts

192 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Seems like the Wail is as unimpressed as the rest of us!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154578/BB...

DJRC

23,563 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Thanks DJRC.

I appreciate the compliment.

You know what, maybe I am dull and boring, but I am sure you must know that there are plenty of people out there who can make what might be a tedious subject extremely interesting. Luckily, I am not a TV presenter so my "dull and boringness" isn't inflicted on the nation. On the other hand, there are people out there who can make any dry subject lively and interesting. It's up to the TV programme makers to make the effort to find them. In the past, they were quite good at this. Today they don't even bother - just being content to trot out the usuall vacuous and empty headed "pretty faces".
Alas I dont particularly care. The vast majority of the audience seemed to think it was accept light entertainment delivery. I suspect they dont really care whether you think otherwise either. Personally I watched it for an hour, then had better things to go and got on with them.

Apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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DJRC said:
The vast majority of the audience seemed to think it was accept light entertainment delivery. I
you presume too much then if the previous link is anything to go by

Randy Winkman

16,439 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Apache said:
DJRC said:
The vast majority of the audience seemed to think it was accept light entertainment delivery. I
you presume too much then if the previous link is anything to go by
I don't think the Daily Wail would ever miss an opportunity to have a go at the BBC.

Eric Mc

122,294 posts

267 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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DJRC said:
Alas I dont particularly care. The vast majority of the audience seemed to think it was accept light entertainment delivery. I suspect they dont really care whether you think otherwise either. Personally I watched it for an hour, then had better things to go and got on with them.
I don't presume to know what the vast majority of the audience think.

And I KNOW they can't care about what I think because they can't KNOW what I think - unless they read PH or have ESP.

tr7v8

7,214 posts

230 months

Tuesday 5th June 2012
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Randy Winkman said:
Apache said:
DJRC said:
The vast majority of the audience seemed to think it was accept light entertainment delivery. I
you presume too much then if the previous link is anything to go by
I don't think the Daily Wail would ever miss an opportunity to have a go at the BBC.
Not just the DM, google it, the criticism is extremely widespread.