Ed Miliband calls for tightening on Immigration

[Ozzie Osmond]

Ed Miliband remains the Conservatives' secret weapon IMO. What a clown.

[Mermaid]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Ed Miliband remains the Conservatives' secret weapon IMO. What a clown.

& Warsi Labour's sort of.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cabi...

[Marf]

Mermaid said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Ed Miliband remains the Conservatives' secret weapon IMO. What a clown.

& Warsi Labour's sort of.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cabi...

The row exploded when Theresa May, the Home Secretary, proposed that UK citizens earning less than £40,000 should not be allowed to bring in a foreign wife or husband, The Independent has learnt. Lady Warsi, the Conservative Party co-chairman and the first Muslim woman to sit in the Cabinet, warned that such a policy would amount to a "whites only" entry rule, with family members living in the Punjab having no chance of getting to this country. Cabinet colleagues say she warned bluntly that such a policy would be viewed as "racist".

Silly bint, so she is effectively saying that non whites cannot earn more than £40k in the UK.

[Pesty]

Of course she is against it. If her huge extended family were not over here who on earth would she take on official trips abroad.

[Mermaid]

Pesty said:

Of course she is against it. If her huge extended family were not over here who on earth would she take on official trips abroad.

" with family members living in the Punjab having no chance of getting to this country" - she is not concerned about the non Punjab immigrants,, not concerned about the Chinese or the Jamaicans - that is racist.

[ukwill]

Marf said:

unrepentant said:

Where's Poland on that list?

Number 3 in the list...

[Mr_B]

Too late , Ed, your party has done the damage already.
Pity he also failed to address the fact the door is still wide open on EU immigration so we are no better of than when his party made their mistakes.

[sjn2004]

KENZ said:

It's the EU migrant workers that's causing a drain on our resources. As most are on low wages, pay little tax and are entitled to all the benefits.

Edited by KENZ on Friday 22 June 13:19

Actually either pay no tax or get benefit top ups to their low wages. Add in the family/school places etc and we're losing a fortune per EU migrant. Do people actually believe these Eastern europeans file a tax return, and even if they do that it won't be under quoted.

Big companies spread propaganda to justify employing cheap EU labour, the funniest has to be that they are better trained/qualified. What poppycock, if you look at the Eastern Bloc over 40 years all they could produce was a Trabant and you're telling they are better trained etc? The real reason is that they have access to a carousel of cheap labour, no unions, no back chat and no regard for working conditions.

[Pesty]

EU should 'undermine national homogeneity' says UN migration chief

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395

[CambsBill]

Mr_B said:

Too late , Ed, your party has done the damage already.
Pity he also failed to address the fact the door is still wide open on EU immigration so we are no better of than when his party made their mistakes.

What, you expect him to have well thought-out answers to the problems they caused as well.

[CambsBill]

Mr_B said:

Too late , Ed, your party has done the damage already.
Pity he also failed to address the fact the door is still wide open on EU immigration so we are no better of than when his party made their mistakes.

What, you expect him to have well thought-out answers to the problems they caused as well.

[Northern Munkee]

Pesty said:

EU should 'undermine national homogeneity' says UN migration chief

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395

... and chairman of the LSE - home to leftie nutters. Who of course traditionally do not believe in the nation state, and hate this nation state in particular, all while enjoying its protection and advantages.

Frightening.

[sjn2004]

ukwill said:

Marf said:

unrepentant said:

Where's Poland on that list?

Number 3 in the list...

Those stats go back 10 years however most of the Poles will have arrived in the last couple of years. As the rest of europe goes tits up these numbers will explode.

[martin84]

I saw BBC local news was doing its usual of taking opinions from two people who agree there's 'too many foreigners' and two people who think its all wonderful, in the interest of balance.

One of the blokes said there's nothing wrong with open doors because 'if I wanted to go to Lithuania to work, then I could' and 'they come here and pay into the system, so its fine.' Well first off there's a reason English people don't go to Lithuania for work, it all goes in one direction. Why do you think that is? Secondly they don't 'pay into the system' because for every foreign worker paying into the system, the Government are paying an English person to not go to work.

The minimum wage in Poland is £280 a month and places like Lithuania/Poland etc don't have the living costs of the UK or the expansive welfare system. It's sort of impossible to put such vastly different countries into the same pot without ending up with some problems. There's a reason a million Brits didn't all go to Poland when they joined the EU.

[essexplumber]

Just took a look on the SWP website, I see they have absolutley no mention of "Red/Maybe a little bit Blue" Ed's speech.

Weird.

[Morningside]

Mr_B said:

Too late , Ed, your party has done the damage already.
Pity he also failed to address the fact the door is still wide open on EU immigration so we are no better of than when his party made their mistakes.

They seem to be doing a lot of distancing themselves from the Blair/Brown era lately don't they?

Too much of the 'yeah, hands up it was us sorry about that chaps. Never happen again'.

Trouble is, people WILL fall for it.

Then again, I really cannot see the Tories getting back in again (My prediction is that the Libdems will fall behind UKIP)

[martin84]

Well the Tories haven't won an election since 1992 so it's not promising for them.

What do you really expect Labour to do though? If they admit fault on something you complain. If they don't admit fault on something you'll criticise them for that too.

What do you want to hear?

[turbobloke]

martin84 said:

Well the Tories haven't won an election since 1992

Which must make it tough for Labour supporters to see CMD in Number 10, given the Tories haven't won an election. Ah well, never mind.

martin84 said:

What do you want to hear?

Ed Miliband remaining as Labour 'leader'.

[Derek Smith]

India 833
Australia 715
Poland 634
USA 505
China 463
South Africa 413
Germany 407
Pakistan 400
France 375
Spain 254
New Zealand 226
Philippines 222
Nigeria 120
Bangladesh 97
Japan 77
Canada 65
Netherlands 64
Italy 62
Republic of Ireland 61
Hong Kong 57
Malaysia 49
Zimbabwe 15


Are these figures percentages of the numbers they government actually admit to?

Edited by Derek Smith on Sunday 24th June 09:43

[Mr_B]

martin84 said:

Well the Tories haven't won an election since 1992 so it's not promising for them.

What do you really expect Labour to do though? If they admit fault on something you complain. If they don't admit fault on something you'll criticise them for that too.

What do you want to hear?

He just admitted to what much of the country is thinking and is trying to patch repair one of Labours biggest vote losers of the last election, so it was a PR exercise.
What I want to hear is what he would do now and why the same failings that allowed uncontroled immigration then, are still in place and what he thinks about that. He has no ideas and won't speak out,he is a wet fart.