Gordon Brown joins the gravy train

Gordon Brown joins the gravy train

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AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

219 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Does his acceptance of this position, mean that in his opinion the "job" of MP is one that can be satisfied on a part time basis? . . . .. of given his attendance record in Westminster over the past 2 years a very very part time basis.

The people of Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath must be wondering who exactly is representing them in the House of Commons

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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dave stew said:
Does any of this remotely surprise anyone?
No

fido

16,882 posts

257 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Jasandjules said:
dave stew said:
Does any of this remotely surprise anyone?
No
But still you'd think that if they needed to hire a buffoon, then there are better buffoons out there.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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grumbledoak said:
The farther away the better IMO.

Then we just need a rogue falling piano and karmic balance can be restored...
Ex Prime`Minister In A Reasonably Priced Car? The Top Gear test track has a history of falling musical instruments scratchchin

Dixie68

3,091 posts

189 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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wollowizard said:
Dixie68 said:
0a said:
How much cash and is it tax free?
It's an unpaid position. Now I'd be right at the front of a queue to punch GB in his smug face, but in this case some people have jumped the gun.
As an EX-PM he is anything but unpaid.
He is, yes, but this particular position is unpaid. And yes, no doubt he will be claiming expenses, but as our politicians seem to be able to claim obscene expenses for anything and everything that's nothing new. As I said, I'd happily punch GB or any other politician.

schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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I despise Brown with a passion for what his actions and policies did to the UK whilst he held office. However, I despise the system more for allowing such gross misconduct to be allowed to happen.

If, with this UN role, he can get an extra 10% of under-privileged kids from some of the most disrupted nations into education and out of a downward spiral of poverty, he will have achieved more than he ever did over his last 25 years or so in UK politics. For that hope, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Oakey

27,619 posts

218 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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schmalex said:
I despise Brown with a passion for what his actions and policies did to the UK whilst he held office. However, I despise the system more for allowing such gross misconduct to be allowed to happen.

If, with this UN role, he can get an extra 10% of under-privileged kids from some of the most disrupted nations into education and out of a downward spiral of poverty, he will have achieved more than he ever did over his last 25 years or so in UK politics. For that hope, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He doesn't turn up for his existing job, why would this be any different?

XCP

16,966 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Oakey said:
He doesn't turn up for his existing job, why would this be any different?
Not so many idiots shouting every time he opens his mouth?

XCP

16,966 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Steffan said:
We can only hope!
I hope he has. I wouldn't wish mental illness on anyone.

tubbystu

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3,846 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Oakey said:
He doesn't turn up for his existing job, why would this be any different?
Because it involves travel perhaps. And turning left on the plane grade travel no doubt, too.

Maybe he could do "sex and travel" ?

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

178 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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0a said:
How much cash and is it tax free?
And who will pay for it?

Countdown

40,217 posts

198 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
Does his acceptance of this position, mean that in his opinion the "job" of MP is one that can be satisfied on a part time basis? . . . .. of given his attendance record in Westminster over the past 2 years a very very part time basis.
I've always wondered this - why are so many MPs allowed other jobs, directorships etc.? I would have thought being an MP was a full time requirement?

Countdown

40,217 posts

198 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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AndrewW-G said:
Does his acceptance of this position, mean that in his opinion the "job" of MP is one that can be satisfied on a part time basis? . . . .. of given his attendance record in Westminster over the past 2 years a very very part time basis.
I've always wondered this - why are so many MPs allowed other jobs, directorships etc.? I would have thought being an MP was a full time requirement?

ETA Good luck to him. I might not have agreed with his policies but he strikes me as far more principled than either his predecessor or his successor.

Steffan

10,362 posts

230 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Countdown said:
AndrewW-G said:
Does his acceptance of this position, mean that in his opinion the "job" of MP is one that can be satisfied on a part time basis? . . . .. of given his attendance record in Westminster over the past 2 years a very very part time basis.
I've always wondered this - why are so many MPs allowed other jobs, directorships etc.? I would have thought being an MP was a full time requirement?

ETA Good luck to him. I might not have agreed with his policies but he strikes me as far more principled than either his predecessor or his successor.
Cameron and Blair would suit each other. Prep school and Public school background, privileged upbringing, Oxbridge degrees. Much in common. Self promotion and aggrandisment by the pursuit of money and status, all at other peoples expense, through politics, being two common facets of their types. Not good at all for either the country or the electorate. Great for themselves.

fido

16,882 posts

257 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Steffan said:
at other peoples expense
Really - of all their (Cameron, Blair) faults you think they cost us money?! Brown has been the most expensive disaster to ever hit the UK since WW2. His sole purpose in life (from his university career to his error-prone role as chancellor of the exchequer) has been about spunking other peoples money away. If only his career had been limited to a small council. Preferably in Scotland. It's not surprising that his only claim to competence was during the credit crunch when extra liquidity (in the form of printing money) was required - but as they, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. wink

Edited by fido on Saturday 14th July 16:38

Countdown

40,217 posts

198 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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fido said:
Steffan said:
at other peoples expense
Really - of all their (Cameron, Blair) faults you think they cost us money?! Brown has been the most expensive disaster to ever hit the UK since WW2. His sole purpose in life (from his university career to his error-prone role as chancellor of the exchequer) has been about spunking other peoples money away. If only his career had been limited to a small council. Preferably in Scotland. It's not surprising that his only claim to competence was during the credit crunch when extra liquidity (in the form of printing money) was required - but as they, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. wink

Edited by fido on Saturday 14th July 16:38
He was obviously very influential as he seems to have caused a global recession.

turbobloke

104,416 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Countdown said:
fido said:
Steffan said:
at other peoples expense
Really - of all their (Cameron, Blair) faults you think they cost us money?! Brown has been the most expensive disaster to ever hit the UK since WW2. His sole purpose in life (from his university career to his error-prone role as chancellor of the exchequer) has been about spunking other peoples money away. If only his career had been limited to a small council. Preferably in Scotland. It's not surprising that his only claim to competence was during the credit crunch when extra liquidity (in the form of printing money) was required - but as they, even a broken clock is correct twice a day. wink

Edited by fido on Saturday 14th July 16:38
He was obviously very influential as he seems to have caused a global recession.
If the correspondingly more massive borrowing levels and purposeless over-spending had been available to him as opposed to the UK alone he probably would have. The entire planet would have been stuffed with five a day coordinators and climate change managers with generous salaries and costly index linked pensions paid for on the never never.

Countdown

40,217 posts

198 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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turbobloke said:
If the correspondingly more massive borrowing levels and purposeless over-spending had been available to him as opposed to the UK alone he probably would have. The entire planet would have been stuffed with five a day coordinators and climate change managers with generous salaries and costly index linked pensions paid for on the never never.
Whilst his policies didn't help the current UK predicament is part of a global phenomenon, not one that is local to the UK OR one that he was primarily responsible for. despite what the frothers would prefer to think smile

turbobloke

104,416 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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Countdown said:
turbobloke said:
If the correspondingly more massive borrowing levels and purposeless over-spending had been available to him as opposed to the UK alone he probably would have. The entire planet would have been stuffed with five a day coordinators and climate change managers with generous salaries and costly index linked pensions paid for on the never never.
Whilst his policies didn't help the current UK predicament is part of a global phenomenon, not one that is local to the UK OR one that he was primarily responsible for.
As you will see on a second read-through, my post referred to the hypothetical situation where, heaven forbid, Gordon had been given access to global funds not just the UK's pot. If that had happened, fewer would have been left with a pot to p1ss in but every country would have had a burgeoning public sector staffed by too many non-jobbers.

baz1985

3,598 posts

247 months

Saturday 14th July 2012
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FFS if he's caused a global depression, instilled 'a lost decade' and as a partial consequence executed a transferral of greater economic power to nation states beyond status quo Western hegemony, that is quite an accomplishment! Oh woe to the prudent chancellor. The Downing Street dominator, now crestfallen after the ill-judged pride of sixty three consecutive quarters of growth, bereft of his once micro-managed political clout, isolated in Kirkcaldy, haunted by Tony.