Obama's limo gets shipped over...
Discussion
Orb the Impaler said:
mft said:
And since when did PH start moaning, unironically, about carbon emissions? 
That's what I thought - at first I was thinking that I'd mistakenly come onto a forum at The Independent or similar carbon-cultist hand wringing rag 
So sad.
SystemParanoia said:
but again the co2 from that thing is insignificant compared to the fact that everywhere airforce one goes... its sister plane which is identical in every way, follows close behind.
now thats burning fuel!
The ship, or ginormous air transporter - presumably one of these - that brought it over though ffs...that'll turn his pure white carbon footprint (he's always banging on about gloopal wombling so it must be whiter than white, right?) into a very dark shade of, erm, a politically incorrect colour.now thats burning fuel!
bridgdav said:
Do you think the MPG is much worse than Jezza's F40..?
Or burns as much fuel as the time when TG had the Veyron..?
A procession of V8's running round London on a Tunnel Run..?
Get a grip people, this is a Motoring forum. Debate the car - if you agree or like it.. Not the fact is't here and damaging the Ozone, or has a high Carbon Footprint.
That's not the point!!Or burns as much fuel as the time when TG had the Veyron..?
A procession of V8's running round London on a Tunnel Run..?
Get a grip people, this is a Motoring forum. Debate the car - if you agree or like it.. Not the fact is't here and damaging the Ozone, or has a high Carbon Footprint.
The point is that this smacks of hipocrasy! There is NO need for 2 planes to bring him over (if AF1 broke here, I'm sure we'd lend him a plane to get home
), not does he need to bring his own armoured cars - we have (and make) them here...ali_kat said:
bridgdav said:
Do you think the MPG is much worse than Jezza's F40..?
Or burns as much fuel as the time when TG had the Veyron..?
A procession of V8's running round London on a Tunnel Run..?
Get a grip people, this is a Motoring forum. Debate the car - if you agree or like it.. Not the fact is't here and damaging the Ozone, or has a high Carbon Footprint.
That's not the point!!Or burns as much fuel as the time when TG had the Veyron..?
A procession of V8's running round London on a Tunnel Run..?
Get a grip people, this is a Motoring forum. Debate the car - if you agree or like it.. Not the fact is't here and damaging the Ozone, or has a high Carbon Footprint.
The point is that this smacks of hipocrasy! There is NO need for 2 planes to bring him over (if AF1 broke here, I'm sure we'd lend him a plane to get home
), not does he need to bring his own armoured cars - we have (and make) them here...Also as has been said before, I suspect the decision to bring their own armoured cars is a secret service one, not one made by the president himself(I'd imagine organising his own travel plans is not part of his remit).
According to a variety of news sources, they bring over not just one helicopter, but a bunch so they can have decoys. The Beast does about 6mpg, and can do 60mph with all the tyres shot out. It has its own air supply, 8" thick armour and carries a supply of the President's blood. It can withstand an RPG attack and chemical attack.
They also bring ALL their own fuel for all vehicles and aircraft. Presumably to avoid paying the extra 2p on fuel which everyone seems to have forgotten today.
They also bring ALL their own fuel for all vehicles and aircraft. Presumably to avoid paying the extra 2p on fuel which everyone seems to have forgotten today.
king ali_kat said:
Fair point, but they still don't need the 2nd AF1 here - just in case 
And it is still hipocrasy - it may not be on his say so, but he can say NO!
Big O has 200 personnel accompanying him - advisers, CIA dudes etcAnd it is still hipocrasy - it may not be on his say so, but he can say NO!
They gotta get here somehow.....
Afterall, he is the President of the United States, travelling to supposedly the most important meeting of our lives......
What do you think the world's media would say if he popped into Heathrow clutching an AmAirlines economy ticket?
We'd laugh him outta town and declare the USA in decline.....
I like a bit of fanfare personally, as long as it's someone else's fanfair
mr_spock said:
They also bring ALL their own fuel for all vehicles and aircraft.
I thought there were rules on using fuel for road transport in the UK for which duty had not been paid? This was what made using waste veg oil as diesel illegal up until recently (when they relaxed the rules on that particular source.) Oli.
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