Symbolic Burning

[Marf]

PintOfKittens said:

You think Muhammed was fictional? You think he didnt exist? Whos buried in his grave? IIRC no one credible has been able to prove that Muhammed didnt exist

Has anyone credible proved(scientifically) that he exists?

[PintOfKittens]

Marf said:

PintOfKittens said:

You think Muhammed was fictional? You think he didnt exist? Whos buried in his grave? IIRC no one credible has been able to prove that Muhammed didnt exist

Has anyone credible proved(scientifically) that he exists?

Everyone credible agrees that he exists - that he was a man who walked around and ate food etc.

[BliarOut]

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

s1962a said:

M-J-B said:

Who's picking on faith here?

You are.

M-J-B said:

Ah, fiction.

That'll be just like the Bible and Koran then.

M-J-B said:

We're simply discussing if one act is similar to another.

Yes, lets keep it on track.

Why do you think there was hypocrisy with the way the 2 incidents were handled?

Poppies commemorate actual dead, the books celebrate fictional characters.

Genuine question why poppies? Why do you feel that a paper replica of a red flower should somehow commemorate the dead soldiers. Why not something else then? Same with a memorial why should a statue be used to commemorate the dead for?

I appreciate and fully understand why we must remember those who have given up their lives in the past and appreciate what they have done but why does society choose a poppy or a memorial for? Is it some form of idolitry excercise? or is it something to remember them by? why can this rememborance not be done any other way?

http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/poetry/poetry_ww1_1.html

Part of your British heritage

Don't they teach this stuff at school still?

[anonymous-user]

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

s1962a said:

M-J-B said:

Who's picking on faith here?

You are.

M-J-B said:

Ah, fiction.

That'll be just like the Bible and Koran then.

M-J-B said:

We're simply discussing if one act is similar to another.

Yes, lets keep it on track.

Why do you think there was hypocrisy with the way the 2 incidents were handled?

Poppies commemorate actual dead, the books celebrate fictional characters.

Genuine question why poppies? Why do you feel that a paper replica of a red flower should somehow commemorate the dead soldiers. Why not something else then? Same with a memorial why should a statue be used to commemorate the dead for?

I appreciate and fully understand why we must remember those who have given up their lives in the past and appreciate what they have done but why does society choose a poppy or a memorial for? Is it some form of idolitry excercise? or is it something to remember them by? why can this rememborance not be done any other way?

http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/poetry/poetry_ww1_1.html

Part of your British heritage

Don't they teach this stuff at school still?

They don't to be fair. The only thing i remember about shcool is sex education and for some strange reason plate techtonics (sp).

The amazing thing is, this whole British heritage, the customs, beliefs etc. Aren't really that different to religion....lol

[BliarOut]

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

s1962a said:

M-J-B said:

Who's picking on faith here?

You are.

M-J-B said:

Ah, fiction.

That'll be just like the Bible and Koran then.

M-J-B said:

We're simply discussing if one act is similar to another.

Yes, lets keep it on track.

Why do you think there was hypocrisy with the way the 2 incidents were handled?

Poppies commemorate actual dead, the books celebrate fictional characters.

Genuine question why poppies? Why do you feel that a paper replica of a red flower should somehow commemorate the dead soldiers. Why not something else then? Same with a memorial why should a statue be used to commemorate the dead for?

I appreciate and fully understand why we must remember those who have given up their lives in the past and appreciate what they have done but why does society choose a poppy or a memorial for? Is it some form of idolitry excercise? or is it something to remember them by? why can this rememborance not be done any other way?

http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/poetry/poetry_ww1_1.html

Part of your British heritage

Don't they teach this stuff at school still?

They don't to be fair. The only thing i remember about shcool is sex education and for some strange reason plate techtonics (sp).

The amazing thing is, this whole British heritage, the customs, beliefs etc. Aren't really that different to religion....lol

Well apart from the 'being fact' bit. And the fact that thousands of brave men died going "over the top". How can you understand what being British is if it's not being taught in schools?

It's a sad indictment of modern education if you can be bought up in this country yet actually know jack st about it.

Still, at least you now understand the symbolism behind the poppy.

[s1962a]

BliarOut said:

..the books celebrate fictional characters.

Maybe to you

Edited by s1962a on Friday 26th November 16:28

[Bill]

PintOfKittens said:

Marf said:

PintOfKittens said:

You think Muhammed was fictional? You think he didnt exist? Whos buried in his grave? IIRC no one credible has been able to prove that Muhammed didnt exist

Has anyone credible proved(scientifically) that he exists?

Everyone credible agrees that he exists - that he was a man who walked around and ate food etc.

Just as Jesus existed. Whether they're prophets or the son of god is a whole separate issue though.

[s1962a]

Bill said:

PintOfKittens said:

Marf said:

PintOfKittens said:

You think Muhammed was fictional? You think he didnt exist? Whos buried in his grave? IIRC no one credible has been able to prove that Muhammed didnt exist

Has anyone credible proved(scientifically) that he exists?

Everyone credible agrees that he exists - that he was a man who walked around and ate food etc.

Just as Jesus existed. Whether they're prophets or the son of god is a whole separate issue though.

And Moses

[Bill]

And a big flood. Somthere's plenty of historical fact wound up in the embellishment.

[anonymous-user]

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

s1962a said:

M-J-B said:

Who's picking on faith here?

You are.

M-J-B said:

Ah, fiction.

That'll be just like the Bible and Koran then.

M-J-B said:

We're simply discussing if one act is similar to another.

Yes, lets keep it on track.

Why do you think there was hypocrisy with the way the 2 incidents were handled?

Poppies commemorate actual dead, the books celebrate fictional characters.

Genuine question why poppies? Why do you feel that a paper replica of a red flower should somehow commemorate the dead soldiers. Why not something else then? Same with a memorial why should a statue be used to commemorate the dead for?

I appreciate and fully understand why we must remember those who have given up their lives in the past and appreciate what they have done but why does society choose a poppy or a memorial for? Is it some form of idolitry excercise? or is it something to remember them by? why can this rememborance not be done any other way?

http://www.ppu.org.uk/learn/poetry/poetry_ww1_1.html

Part of your British heritage

Don't they teach this stuff at school still?

They don't to be fair. The only thing i remember about shcool is sex education and for some strange reason plate techtonics (sp).

The amazing thing is, this whole British heritage, the customs, beliefs etc. Aren't really that different to religion....lol

Well apart from the 'being fact' bit. And the fact that thousands of brave men died going "over the top". How can you understand what being British is if it's not being taught in schools?

It's a sad indictment of modern education if you can be bought up in this country yet actually know jack st about it.

Still, at least you now understand the symbolism behind the poppy.

What do you mean by being British? You tell me what on eshould be to be British? Should they be willing to lay their lives for their country no matter what?

Is it not acceptable that one can live in the country, contribute, abide by the laws and repsect those that are present (basically keep your head down and fit it!) without being all patriotic and having feeling British?

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 26th November 16:35

[BliarOut]

I have no chip, I'm merely teaching you something you should have been taught by your teachers You now understand a little of the history of the poppy and why it's an important part of British history.

[anonymous-user]

BliarOut said:

I have no chip, I'm merely teaching you something you should have been taught by your teachers You now understand a little of the history of the poppy and why it's an important part of British history.

Okay i've taken that bit out as it has obviously offended you which is not my intention however would you be so kind to answer my questions please.

[BliarOut]

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

I have no chip, I'm merely teaching you something you should have been taught by your teachers You now understand a little of the history of the poppy and why it's an important part of British history.

Okay i've taken that bit out as it has obviously offended you which is not my intention however would you be so kind to answer my questions please.

If people don't understand 'our' and by our I mean us honkies history and what we did over the years you're not going to know what pisses us off and what we're not really that bothered about. British history should be taught in schools (even the bad bits where we went round coshing Johnny Foreigner) so that everyone can understand how we came to have the society we now do.

The poppy is a very important symbol and certainly people of my age understand why it matters. If you disrespect the poppy you disrespect our grandfathers etc. who went to war in a shockingly brutal and bloody (and frequently pointless IMO) conflict. Thousands of men died for a few yards of muddy field, the poppy symbolises their selfless acts.

[eldar]

Bill said:

And a big flood. Somthere's plenty of historical fact wound up in the embellishment.

That bloody global warming, again.

[s1962a]

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

I have no chip, I'm merely teaching you something you should have been taught by your teachers You now understand a little of the history of the poppy and why it's an important part of British history.

Okay i've taken that bit out as it has obviously offended you which is not my intention however would you be so kind to answer my questions please.

If people don't understand 'our' and by our I mean us honkies history and what we did over the years you're not going to know what pisses us off and what we're not really that bothered about. British history should be taught in schools (even the bad bits where we went round coshing Johnny Foreigner) so that everyone can understand how we came to have the society we now do.

The poppy is a very important symbol and certainly people of my age understand why it matters. If you disrespect the poppy you disrespect our grandfathers etc. who went to war in a shockingly brutal and bloody (and frequently pointless IMO) conflict. Thousands of men died for a few yards of muddy field, the poppy symbolises their selfless acts.

It's probably only Shaid who doesn't know about the UK's military history.

Anyway, atheism is quite a modern 'religion'

[anonymous-user]

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

I have no chip, I'm merely teaching you something you should have been taught by your teachers You now understand a little of the history of the poppy and why it's an important part of British history.

Okay i've taken that bit out as it has obviously offended you which is not my intention however would you be so kind to answer my questions please.

If people don't understand 'our' and by our I mean us honkies history and what we did over the years you're not going to know what pisses us off and what we're not really that bothered about. British history should be taught in schools (even the bad bits where we went round coshing Johnny Foreigner) so that everyone can understand how we came to have the society we now do.

The poppy is a very important symbol and certainly people of my age understand why it matters. If you disrespect the poppy you disrespect our grandfathers etc. who went to war in a shockingly brutal and bloody (and frequently pointless IMO) conflict. Thousands of men died for a few yards of muddy field, the poppy symbolises their selfless acts.

What do you mean by being British? You tell me what on eshould be to be British? Should they be willing to lay their lives for their country no matter what?

Is it not acceptable that one can live in the country, contribute, abide by the laws and repsect those that are present (basically keep your head down and fit it!) without being all patriotic and having feeling British?

[M-J-B]

BliarOut said:

Hundreds of thousands Thousands of men died for a few yards of muddy field, the poppy symbolises their selfless acts.

EFA.

Without those men (and those who have fought and serve in more recent conflict) our lives would be totally different.

Forget being able to protest about schooling, poll tax or whatever, you'd be up against a wall and shot if you dare say a word against the state rulers.

[BliarOut]

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

I have no chip, I'm merely teaching you something you should have been taught by your teachers You now understand a little of the history of the poppy and why it's an important part of British history.

Okay i've taken that bit out as it has obviously offended you which is not my intention however would you be so kind to answer my questions please.

If people don't understand 'our' and by our I mean us honkies history and what we did over the years you're not going to know what pisses us off and what we're not really that bothered about. British history should be taught in schools (even the bad bits where we went round coshing Johnny Foreigner) so that everyone can understand how we came to have the society we now do.

The poppy is a very important symbol and certainly people of my age understand why it matters. If you disrespect the poppy you disrespect our grandfathers etc. who went to war in a shockingly brutal and bloody (and frequently pointless IMO) conflict. Thousands of men died for a few yards of muddy field, the poppy symbolises their selfless acts.

What do you mean by being British? You tell me what on eshould be to be British? Should they be willing to lay their lives for their country no matter what?

Is it not acceptable that one can live in the country, contribute, abide by the laws and repsect those that are present (basically keep your head down and fit it!) without being all patriotic and having feeling British?

If you don't understand us how can you know if you're going to offend us? FTR I hated first world war history and if I ever have to write another essay on the bloody poets I'll probably kill someone myself, but the knowledge helps me to know who I am.

As I said, now you know the history of the poppy you know why it's unacceptable to be disrespectful towards it.

[anonymous-user]

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

Shaid GTB said:

BliarOut said:

I have no chip, I'm merely teaching you something you should have been taught by your teachers You now understand a little of the history of the poppy and why it's an important part of British history.

Okay i've taken that bit out as it has obviously offended you which is not my intention however would you be so kind to answer my questions please.

If people don't understand 'our' and by our I mean us honkies history and what we did over the years you're not going to know what pisses us off and what we're not really that bothered about. British history should be taught in schools (even the bad bits where we went round coshing Johnny Foreigner) so that everyone can understand how we came to have the society we now do.

The poppy is a very important symbol and certainly people of my age understand why it matters. If you disrespect the poppy you disrespect our grandfathers etc. who went to war in a shockingly brutal and bloody (and frequently pointless IMO) conflict. Thousands of men died for a few yards of muddy field, the poppy symbolises their selfless acts.

What do you mean by being British? You tell me what what should it mean to be British? Should they be willing to lay their lives for their country no matter what?

Is it not acceptable that one can live in the country, contribute, abide by the laws and repsect those that are present (basically keep your head down and fit in!) without being all patriotic and having feeling British?

If you don't understand us how can you know if you're going to offend us? FTR I hated first world war history and if I ever have to write another essay on the bloody poets I'll probably kill someone myself, but the knowledge helps me to know who I am.

As I said, now you know the history of the poppy you know why it's unacceptable to be disrespectful towards it.

Can you read the question above your last post.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 26th November 17:07

[BliarOut]

That's as close as you'll get to an answer right now I'm afraid, I have a date with a plate full of assorted pork products