Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result

[gruffalo]

Fittster said:

don4l said:

FTSE250... up
Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down

Where of course don4l forgets is more QE and further reduction in interest rates that were forced on the BOE after the vote.

Both of those measures were on the cards anyway, nowhere in the world is booming right now and not because of a vote made some 10 weeks ago.

[FN2TypeR]

don4l said:

if we have another vote, then it will probably be 80% in favour of "Leave".

I voted leave and would again but I think you have overplayed your position by at least 20% or so there. If there was another referendum I'd be amazed if either "side" garnered more than 60%, it's just too divisive an issue for there to be a real swing either way IMO.

[Fittster]

gruffalo said:

Fittster said:

don4l said:

FTSE250... up
Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down

Where of course don4l forgets is more QE and further reduction in interest rates that were forced on the BOE after the vote.

Both of those measures were on the cards anyway, nowhere in the world is booming right now and not because of a vote made some 10 weeks ago.

No they weren't. BoE were clear they would take action to protect the economy in response to an out vote which they were forced to do. This was the first cut since 2009 and a rise was being consider in the months prior to the vote.

We have also seen the government abandon austerity targets after the out vote to further try and sure up the economy.

[FiF]

BIANCO said:

Strocky said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/04/g20-...

Going to concentrate on the TTIP deal, haha. The chances of that going through a next to 0 even with us a pro American country in the EU. Which is exactly why they want us to stay because they have more influence in the EU through us.

Exactly. With UK in the EU there is one nation in there which has a long lasting relationship with the US in many ways, not least sharing of security intel that isn't shared with any other nation, and certainly not in the manner it is.

[FN2TypeR]

This special trade deal that won't be forthcoming - what EU/USA trade deal would that be replacing post Brexit out of interest?

Oh, wait.

[Sway]

Mrr T said:

UK pensioners who have retired in the rEU maybe very worried about the loss of the S1 system.

Edited by Mrr T on Sunday 4th September 09:09

They may be, however is it really prudent to make significant choices for the next few decades that include a reliance on a financial system controlled by the government? That would be akin to taking out a mortgage on the assumption that interest rates could never move.

The S1 system has come into existence during these individual's lifetimes - is it really such a shock that it may end?

[don4l]

PurpleMoonlight said:

don4l said:

Or perhaps the remainers had to rely on a cross dressing ex-comedian.

You really are quite a nasty person.

So, we can add nasty to the long list of insults. Thick, uneducated, lower class, bigotted, unemployed, and now "nasty".

Let me give you a real example of nastiness. A multimillionaire rock star sticking two fingers a minimum wage fishermen who want to save their jobs. That is real nastiness. And it makes me angry to see it. It also makes me angry when so many people refuse to condemn such atrocious behaviour.

So, if you want to feel morally superior, then carry on.

[///ajd]

There really are too many personal insults being thrown around here.

Plus, if you don't want people to think you're bigoted, don't post things that make you sound bigoted. Its quite simple.

[Mrr T]

Sway said:

Mrr T said:

UK pensioners who have retired in the rEU maybe very worried about the loss of the S1 system.

Edited by Mrr T on Sunday 4th September 09:09

They may be, however is it really prudent to make significant choices for the next few decades that include a reliance on a financial system controlled by the government? That would be akin to taking out a mortgage on the assumption that interest rates could never move.

The S1 system has come into existence during these individual's lifetimes - is it really such a shock that it may end?

I assume most people who retired to rEU assumed we would not be leaving the EU.

I am sure it's going to be OK as we know the EU will give us every thing we want with out us having to accept any more EU immigrants or pay into the EU.

The EU as Santa.

[don4l]

Deptford Draylons said:

Was that Don on the news trying to run off with Izzard's pink beret as a Brexit souvenir ?

I don't have any pink clothing in my wardrobe.

Somehow, I don't think that pink would suit me.

[don4l]

Fittster said:

don4l said:

FTSE250... up
Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down

Where of course don4l forgets is more QE and further reduction in interest rates that were forced on the BOE after the vote.

The cut in interest rates was a panic measure. It will be reversed before Christmas. There are far too many inflationary pressures at the moment.

The only references to recent QE that I have seen are here on PH. I'm fully aware that Carney announced a "facility" that meant that there would be QE if banks required extra liquidity. As far as I am aware, no bank has made such a request.

Can anybody post a link to some evidence that QE has happened in the last few months?

[don4l]

Mrr T said:

I assume most people who retired to rEU assumed we would not be leaving the EU.

I am sure it's going to be OK as we know the EU will give us every thing we want with out us having to accept any more EU immigrants or pay into the EU.

The EU as Santa.

I recently spent a couple of weeks with my in-laws is Spain. The Spanish are terrified by the prospect that British ex-pats will sell up and return to the UK.

The effects on local employment and housing market would be devastating. Something will be worked out to keep the British there.

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

There really are too many personal insults being thrown around here.

Plus, if you don't want people to think you're bigoted, don't post things that make you sound bigoted. Its quite simple.

Sound advice, but somewhat ironic coming from you

[All that jazz]

@ Don4l, can you stop being so nasty to the bitter remainers please. They are quite a sensitive bunch and still haven't stopped crying into their cornflakes from months ago. In fact the crying has now reached epic levels since the recent news that there will be no U-turn or half-baked 'in' deal, so you need to be nice to them, give them a pat on the head and tell them it'll all be okay.

[///ajd]

Anyway, while you guys carry on with the name calling, any thoughts on this:


“Japanese businesses with their European headquarters in the UK may decide to transfer their head-office function to continental Europe if EU laws cease to be applicable in the UK after its withdrawal.”


Is this OK for a brexit outcome? Shall we just ignore it? What's the plan chaps?

[alfie2244]

///ajd said:

Anyway, while you guys carry on with the name calling, any thoughts on this:


“Japanese businesses with their European headquarters in the UK may decide to transfer their head-office function to continental Europe if EU laws cease to be applicable in the UK after its withdrawal.”


Is this OK for a brexit outcome? Shall we just ignore it? What's the plan chaps?

Wont't happen..........stop being a big girl's blouse.

[All that jazz]

///ajd said:

Anyway, while you guys carry on with the name calling, any thoughts on this:


“Japanese businesses with their European headquarters in the UK may decide to transfer their head-office function to continental Europe if EU laws cease to be applicable in the UK after its withdrawal.”


Is this OK for a brexit outcome? Shall we just ignore it? What's the plan chaps?

Slow news day.

[anonymous-user]

///ajd said:

Anyway, while you guys carry on with the name calling, any thoughts on this:


“Japanese businesses with their European headquarters in the UK may decide to transfer their head-office function to continental Europe if EU laws cease to be applicable in the UK after its withdrawal.”


Is this OK for a brexit outcome? Shall we just ignore it? What's the plan chaps?

The business could be useful to Italy or Spain. At least they will have easy access to 27 countries.

Let's wait and see.

[Derek Smith]

don4l said:

So, we can add nasty to the long list of insults. Thick, uneducated, lower class, bigotted, unemployed, and now "nasty".

Am I the only one who can see a trend here?

[///ajd]

Derek Smith said:

don4l said:

So, we can add nasty to the long list of insults. Thick, uneducated, lower class, bigotted, unemployed, and now "nasty".

Am I the only one who can see a trend here?

No. I also think the irony is lost on them.

The more insults they hurl, the more they actually reinforce the stereotype & tag they complain that has been unfairly given to them.

The pressure on trade is going to get tricky for May - it will be used against her team by the EU. Its an almost impossible task. Maybe that is one reason why she is driving for hard brexit - though from her recent speeches she will now carry the failure on her hands as much as fox and davis if the deal is not up to scratch.