Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
Discussion
///ajd said:
The pressure on trade is going to get tricky for May - it will be used against her team by the EU. Its an almost impossible task. Maybe that is one reason why she is driving for hard brexit - though from her recent speeches she will now carry the failure on her hands as much as fox and davis if the deal is not up to scratch.
Why don't you try being positive for a change instead of constantly predicting doom and gloom? All your armegeddon predictions thus far since the vote results have been wrong.
All that jazz said:
///ajd said:
The pressure on trade is going to get tricky for May - it will be used against her team by the EU. Its an almost impossible task. Maybe that is one reason why she is driving for hard brexit - though from her recent speeches she will now carry the failure on her hands as much as fox and davis if the deal is not up to scratch.
Why don't you try being positive for a change instead of constantly predicting doom and gloom? All your armegeddon predictions thus far since the vote results have been wrong.
If you don't like the u turn thread, start one about the benefits of brexit. Now why isn't there one of those already?
bmw535i said:
The beret has since been taken away by police as evidence. 
///ajd said:
Why don't you let people discuss the implications of brexit unhindered by insults, digs and attempts to stop any discussion that might deviate from the sunny utopian uplands of brexit?
If you don't like the u turn thread, start one about the benefits of brexit. Now why isn't there one of those already?
All Brexit threads turn out the same and draw the same conclusions: no u-turn and no disasters.If you don't like the u turn thread, start one about the benefits of brexit. Now why isn't there one of those already?
don4l said:
Fittster said:
don4l said:
FTSE250... up
Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down
Where of course don4l forgets is more QE and further reduction in interest rates that were forced on the BOE after the vote.Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down
The only references to recent QE that I have seen are here on PH. I'm fully aware that Carney announced a "facility" that meant that there would be QE if banks required extra liquidity. As far as I am aware, no bank has made such a request.
Can anybody post a link to some evidence that QE has happened in the last few months?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/economy/econo...
///ajd said:
All that jazz said:
///ajd said:
The pressure on trade is going to get tricky for May - it will be used against her team by the EU. Its an almost impossible task. Maybe that is one reason why she is driving for hard brexit - though from her recent speeches she will now carry the failure on her hands as much as fox and davis if the deal is not up to scratch.
Why don't you try being positive for a change instead of constantly predicting doom and gloom? All your armegeddon predictions thus far since the vote results have been wrong.
If you don't like the u turn thread, start one about the benefits of brexit. Now why isn't there one of those already?
All that jazz said:
Because this thread is entitled "could UK U-turn on referendum result" and has been answered many many times that there will not with proof, quotes, news articles and videos of the PM herself confirming such. Why won't you accept this evidence and proof and why do you persist in derailing the thread by spamming it with baseless predictions of armageddon and doom and gloom? What exactly are you hoping to achieve? I'm sure there are far more fitting forums out there where you will feel at home with like-minded doom-mongers as you await the world to implode.
The possibility of a u-turn will be determined by the outcome of negotiations, so I'd expect this thread to comment in how they go. The japanese intervention today isbut one example.There is no consensus its a done deal. Gus O'Donnel and others don't think so.
Why does discussing it wind up brexiters so much? I would have thought there would be interest in the outcome of the deal, but many times its just dismissed as "don't care as long as we're out!".
You can have that view, but no need to try and silence others.
bmw535i said:
Saw this earlier.I loved the fact that at a march stating it's great to be in Europe. That one "David Czerwonko" whose potentially a Pole was the one who stole his hat.
Just because it lampoons the Pro-Brexit hand wringers argument that NO person who comes from outside the UK is anything other than a hard working, completely honest, wouldn't hurt a fly type
(I DO realise that not every visitor is an arse. But there are some.)
Fittster said:
don4l said:
Fittster said:
don4l said:
FTSE250... up
Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down
Where of course don4l forgets is more QE and further reduction in interest rates that were forced on the BOE after the vote.Pound... down
Exports... up
Consumer spending... up
Unemployment... down
The only references to recent QE that I have seen are here on PH. I'm fully aware that Carney announced a "facility" that meant that there would be QE if banks required extra liquidity. As far as I am aware, no bank has made such a request.
Can anybody post a link to some evidence that QE has happened in the last few months?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/economy/econo...
///ajd said:
All that jazz said:
Because this thread is entitled "could UK U-turn on referendum result" and has been answered many many times that there will not with proof, quotes, news articles and videos of the PM herself confirming such. Why won't you accept this evidence and proof and why do you persist in derailing the thread by spamming it with baseless predictions of armageddon and doom and gloom? What exactly are you hoping to achieve? I'm sure there are far more fitting forums out there where you will feel at home with like-minded doom-mongers as you await the world to implode.
The possibility of a u-turn will be determined by the outcome of negotiations, so I'd expect this thread to comment in how they go. The japanese intervention today isbut one example.There is no consensus its a done deal. Gus O'Donnel and others don't think so.
Why does discussing it wind up brexiters so much? I would have thought there would be interest in the outcome of the deal, but many times its just dismissed as "don't care as long as we're out!".
You can have that view, but no need to try and silence others.
READ IT AND TAKE IT IN :
PM said:
"We must be clear that we are going to make a success of it - that means no second referendum, no attempts to sort of stay in the EU by the back door. That we are actually going to deliver on it."
Stop arguing that it won't happen. It's there, clear as day. End of discussion thread. ///ajd said:
The possibility of a u-turn will be determined by the outcome of negotiations, so I'd expect this thread to comment in how they go. The japanese intervention today isbut one example.
There is no consensus its a done deal. Gus O'Donnel and others don't think so.
Why does discussing it wind up brexiters so much? I would have thought there would be interest in the outcome of the deal, but many times its just dismissed as "don't care as long as we're out!".
You can have that view, but no need to try and silence others.
I don't think it winds people up (I speak for myself - others may) There is no consensus its a done deal. Gus O'Donnel and others don't think so.
Why does discussing it wind up brexiters so much? I would have thought there would be interest in the outcome of the deal, but many times its just dismissed as "don't care as long as we're out!".
You can have that view, but no need to try and silence others.
It generally amuses me, this silly rhetoric that keeps getting spouted. All the misquoting and benign remarks about people's jobs only undermines your campaign too. At some point you'll have to accept the inevitable- you're not there yet, but it'll come.
Until then you can waste your time rooting round for negatives, but it's a bit sad to be honest.
It is bizarre to see such agitation about any discussion that dares to speculate on outcomes - some of which are challenging and have some downsides.
If you can't stomach a bit of reality, best look elsewhere.
It is telling that not one brexiter is discussing the Japan issue - only casting extremely lame insults and calls for silence towards those discussing it.
By all means carry on with the pointless moaning if you want, I'm just going to ignore it as it serves no purpose.
On the other hand discussing the challenges of the outcome of brexit is entirely valid topic - and one which is key for the future of the country.
If you can't stomach a bit of reality, best look elsewhere.
It is telling that not one brexiter is discussing the Japan issue - only casting extremely lame insults and calls for silence towards those discussing it.
By all means carry on with the pointless moaning if you want, I'm just going to ignore it as it serves no purpose.
On the other hand discussing the challenges of the outcome of brexit is entirely valid topic - and one which is key for the future of the country.
All that jazz said:
YES! GREAT ADVICE AJD! Off you go, sir. This thread is not for you.
Whereas a thread about a u-turn on the referendum is a magnet for brexiters who are so afraid of any discussion on the topic they post incessantly to try and get the discussion stopped. The bill for your bed linen must be astronomical.
That's it, no more bites. I'll leave you to prove your own insecurity alone.
All that jazz said:
Stop arguing that it won't happen. It's there, clear as day. End of discussion thread.
There are huge challenges to Brexit as you are aware. This thread is about those challenges and the potential that Brexit may not happen in the way that many leave voters expect. It's a perfectly reasonable debate. Unfortunately this thread seems to attract a certain group of leave voters who endlessly refer to the same statements by the PM and seek to close down anyone who disagrees with them. I have never seen anything quite like it.
In this case, you are posting repeatedly that there is nothing to discuss. If you genuinely believe that to be the case, then perhaps you should leave the discussion instead of trying to force others to end it?
bmw535i said:
It generally amuses me, this silly rhetoric that keeps getting spouted. All the misquoting and benign remarks about people's jobs only undermines your campaign too. At some point you'll have to accept the inevitable- you're not there yet, but it'll come.
Until then you can waste your time rooting round for negatives, but it's a bit sad to be honest.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense would realise that Brexit will bring some negative impacts. There will be winners and losers throughout our economy. There is nothing sad in recognising that. Until then you can waste your time rooting round for negatives, but it's a bit sad to be honest.
There is also nothing sad about AJD posting on a subject that interests him. No-one makes you read his posts and you have no obligation to reply. We know where you stand on the subject.
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