Foster Children removed from couple for UKIP membership

[Mojocvh]

"I give up "

thank fk

[Jinx]

mattnunn said:

I give up anyway, I don't really care all that much, UKIP will always be a fringe party appealing to a small number of conspiracy theorists and victim mentality loons - this threas along with their literature has persuaded me that Rotheram council probably did the right thing.

Funny - I assume you have read some history? Might I suggest the treatment of the Jewish people from 1080-1946 might be a good subject of study?

Have you ever heard the phrase "remove the beam from thine own eye........." ?

[thinfourth2]

mattnunn said:

The reason I started talking about the Welsh was to introduce the idea to one of you UKIP supporters that culture and race are indivisable,

My race is white europian

exactly the same race as these guys



and these guys



And these guys




So i must have the same culture

Which means i'm a Morris dancing football hooligan with a passion for leather trousers

[mattnunn]

^^^ So having a dig at the Welsh (which I wasn't - some of my best friends are sheep) isn't racist as the UKIP supporters suggested it was. We agree.

[mattnunn]

Jinx said:

Funny - I assume you have read some history? Might I suggest the treatment of the Jewish people from 1080-1946 might be a good subject of study?

Interested to know where you might be going with that!

[brenflys777]

mattnunn said:

some of my best friends are sheep

Ewe don't surprise me.

[FiF]

mattnunn said:

I give up

Oh dear what a pity, I presented you with the data and asked you to "Please expand on the basis for this allegation."

But you couldn't and rambled on about second preferences and all things for which there is very little data and I didn't have time to ask you to prove your theory than impose on others to disprove yours before others handed you your arse back. Well done gents.

Run along little chap, door is that way--->>

[Mark Benson]

mattnunn said:

Everyone else in normal on here, that's right, I'm the only loon in the village!

No, but you're part of a little enclave of people whose mouths are far, far bigger than their collective intellects.

We like to point and laugh, but we don't take what you say seriously.

[alfaman]

mattnunn said:

culture and race are indivisable,

culture and race are very different .. classic example would be most of the native population of South Africa / Lesotho / Swaziland / Mozambique / Zimbabwe / Malawi.

They all descend from the 'Bantu' people X,000 years ago [black africans] - but split into many tribes with very different cultures and languages [ Xhosa , Zulu, Basotho, Swazi, Chewa and whatever Zim people are .... ] ... so nominally originate from the same race , but are now different.

[BliarOut]

mattnunn said:

^^^ So having a dig at the Welsh (which I wasn't - some of my best friends are sheep) isn't racist as the UKIP supporters suggested it was. We agree.

Nope, we don't. You think it but you're in a minority of one.

You made fun of the Welsh purely because they're Welsh. You horrible discriminatory bd.

[steveT350C]

Having decided to join UKIP due mainly to my not believing the UK should be a part if the EU.

I am not a racist, but do have concerns about mass immigration. We all know there have been a fair few undesirables entering Britain over the years.

I have read all of this thread, done some googling and found an interesting piece on multiculturalism that I will tentatively leave here

http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/mar/17/...

Apologies for the mobile link, hope pc users can find article too

Edit, I should add that I think this helps explain what UKIP means when referring to a political policy of multiculturalism.

Edited by steveT350C on Wednesday 28th November 15:46

[Digga]

steveT350C said:

I am not a racist, but do have concerns about mass immigration.

And niether for one minute should anyone ever be accused of being racist for sharing similarly based concerns.

FWIW, I have friends who are second generation immigrants who are equally concerned about the effects - they they too have witnesses first hand here - of our open borders policy and I know they are not alone. Genuine immigrants, who came here either by choice or as refugees (one friend's parents came from Uganda for example), looking to assimilate our culture and become part of our society are just as appalled at what has happened.

[thinfourth2]

mattnunn said:

^^^ So having a dig at the Welsh (which I wasn't - some of my best friends are sheep) isn't racist as the UKIP supporters suggested it was. We agree.

No you said that they are indivisible

So all whites must have the same culture which is racist


but i vote UKIP so i must go and burn some crosses

Anyone seen where i left my pillowcase with the eye holes?

[Einion Yrth]

thinfourth2 said:

No you said that they are indivisible

So all whites must have the same culture which is racist


but i vote UKIP so i must go and burn some crosses

Anyone seen where i left my pillowcase with the eye holes?

He really is beyond parody though.

[mattnunn]

thinfourth2 said:

mattnunn said:

^^^ So having a dig at the Welsh (which I wasn't - some of my best friends are sheep) isn't racist as the UKIP supporters suggested it was. We agree.

No you said that they are indivisible

So all whites must have the same culture which is racist


but i vote UKIP so i must go and burn some crosses

Anyone seen where i left my pillowcase with the eye holes?

Race and culture are indivisable. Unless you want to provide us with your list of distinct racial groups - how do you clasify them? Not by means of the metric that multiculturalism lays down surely!

We use the word race or racist to describe lot's of behaviour that is really a clash of culture, the War in Rwanda, the German treatment of Jews, religious war in the Balkans, taking the mick out of the Welsh.

Surely there is only one race, the human race... To divide it any further into sub "species" is surely the most obvious and heinous act of racism - is that what you do?

[Andy Zarse]

Digga said:

steveT350C said:

I am not a racist, but do have concerns about mass immigration.

And niether for one minute should anyone ever be accused of being racist for sharing similarly based concerns.

FWIW, I have friends who are second generation immigrants who are equally concerned about the effects - they they too have witnesses first hand here - of our open borders policy and I know they are not alone. Genuine immigrants, who came here either by choice or as refugees (one friend's parents came from Uganda for example), looking to assimilate our culture and become part of our society are just as appalled at what has happened.

I can tell you this view is shared largely by the significant Antiguan population who live in the UK (for reasons I know not) largely in Leicester. We often hear about Jamaican Yardies and their drug running based violent crimes. The Antiguans are fed up with being labelled as from the same culture, though genetically they are of course similar.

As a somewhat prejudiced Montserratan taxidriver told me about the twenty or so Jamaican workmen who'd recently turned up on his island bringing with them a crimewave which included murder, "Man they're the most disgusting people on God's earth". I don't happen to agree but...

[Yertis]

Mark Benson said:

No, but you're part of a little enclave of people whose mouths are far, far bigger than their collective intellects.

We like to point and laugh, but we don't take what you say seriously.

Unfortunately Mark, not taking such people seriously is exactly what has enabled them to work their way into positions of increasingly important, and often unelected, authority.

[thinfourth2]

mattnunn said:

Surely there is only one race, the human race... To divide it any further into sub "species" is surely the most obvious and heinous act of racism - is that what you do?

So one race means one culture

Not multiple cultures

ergo

no multicultralism



Which is where i stepped into this saying we should have one culture in Britian.

British culture.



I could write a long winded thing now but i think i shall sum up with

Fit in and contribute or fk off

[BliarOut]

mattnunn said:

thinfourth2 said:

mattnunn said:

^^^ So having a dig at the Welsh (which I wasn't - some of my best friends are sheep) isn't racist as the UKIP supporters suggested it was. We agree.

No you said that they are indivisible

So all whites must have the same culture which is racist


but i vote UKIP so i must go and burn some crosses

Anyone seen where i left my pillowcase with the eye holes?

Race and culture are indivisable. Unless you want to provide us with your list of distinct racial groups - how do you clasify them? Not by means of the metric that multiculturalism lays down surely!

We use the word race or racist to describe lot's of behaviour that is really a clash of culture, the War in Rwanda, the German treatment of Jews, religious war in the Balkans, taking the mick out of the Welsh.

Surely there is only one race, the human race... To divide it any further into sub "species" is surely the most obvious and heinous act of racism - is that what you do?

So you are a racist...

[steveT350C]

Mattnunn, racism is defined here: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/r...

Racism is not the act of subdividing the human race. Anthropology perhaps?

Edited by steveT350C on Wednesday 28th November 17:13