Foster Children removed from couple for UKIP membership

Foster Children removed from couple for UKIP membership

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mattnunn

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
mattnunn said:
Surely there is only one race, the human race... To divide it any further into sub "species" is surely the most obvious and heinous act of racism - is that what you do?
So one race means one culture

Not multiple cultures

ergo

no multicultralism



Which is where i stepped into this saying we should have one culture in Britian.

British culture.



I could write a long winded thing now but i think i shall sum up with

Fit in and contribute or fk off
Fit into what?

Are you seriously suggesting we draw a line in the sand and declare from this day forth no more changes shall be made to British culture...

I mean really? Did Mick Jagger fit into British culture when he started prancing around in make up in the 60s - was Boy George a neat fit into British culture in the 80s. Did John Barnes snugly fit into the role of British culture when he was missing all those sitters in an England shirt?

Fit in or fk off - is that really the mantra of all you UKIP supporters? And we don't have any idea why Rotheram social services were worried?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
thinfourth2 said:
mattnunn said:
Surely there is only one race, the human race... To divide it any further into sub "species" is surely the most obvious and heinous act of racism - is that what you do?
So one race means one culture

Not multiple cultures

ergo

no multicultralism



Which is where i stepped into this saying we should have one culture in Britian.

British culture.



I could write a long winded thing now but i think i shall sum up with

Fit in and contribute or fk off
Fit into what?

Are you seriously suggesting we draw a line in the sand and declare from this day forth no more changes shall be made to British culture...

I mean really? Did Mick Jagger fit into British culture when he started prancing around in make up in the 60s - was Boy George a neat fit into British culture in the 80s. Did John Barnes snugly fit into the role of British culture when he was missing all those sitters in an England shirt?

Fit in or fk off - is that really the mantra of all you UKIP supporters? And we don't have any idea why Rotheram social services were worried?
They probably employ people like you. Completely fking mental racists...

steveT350C

6,728 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Hi Mattnunn,

FYI a definition of racism:

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/r...

Suggesting that subdividing the human race is a terrible racist act is, amongst other things, incorrect. Anthropologists may also have something to say to you me thinks!

mattnunn

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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BliarOut said:
They probably employ people like you. Completely fking mental racists...
Oh the banter...

blabla

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
BliarOut said:
They probably employ people like you. Completely fking mental racists...
Oh the banter...

blabla
In fairness to the other posters who have replied to you, I think they have forced themselves right down to your level, perhaps in the hope that it's the language you understand.

You see, you're not nearly as 'right on' or clever as you think. Not even close, if your posts are anything to go by - you seem to be the one with hang ups.

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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chris watton said:
mattnunn said:
BliarOut said:
They probably employ people like you. Completely fking mental racists...
Oh the banter...

blabla
In fairness to the other posters who have replied to you, I think they have forced themselves right down to your level, perhaps in the hope that it's the language you understand.

You see, you're not nearly as 'right on' or clever as you think. Not even close, if your posts are anything to go by - you seem to be the one with hang ups.
And he's a racist...

Dixie68

3,091 posts

189 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
The UK by nature is a multicutural Isle, failure to recognise the emergent nature of culture and trying to draw a line at a point in history and saying this is our culture now and all must obey it at the expense of other has been tried in the past - by racists.
The above quote is why it is so difficult to sensibly discuss immigration without someone pointing and shouting "racist".
It is NOT racist to want to control immigration.

mattnunn

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Dixie68 said:
mattnunn said:
The UK by nature is a multicutural Isle, failure to recognise the emergent nature of culture and trying to draw a line at a point in history and saying this is our culture now and all must obey it at the expense of other has been tried in the past - by racists.
The above quote is why it is so difficult to sensibly discuss immigration without someone pointing and shouting "racist".
It is NOT racist to want to control immigration.
No one said it was did they?

Yertis

18,132 posts

268 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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chris watton said:
In fairness to the other posters who have replied to you, I think they have forced themselves right down to your level, perhaps in the hope that it's the language you understand.

You see, you're not nearly as 'right on' or clever as you think. Not even close, if your posts are anything to go by - you seem to be the one with hang ups.
I thought my posts were OK actually...

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Yertis said:
I thought my posts were OK actually...
hehe

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
thinfourth2 said:
mattnunn said:
Surely there is only one race, the human race... To divide it any further into sub "species" is surely the most obvious and heinous act of racism - is that what you do?
So one race means one culture

Not multiple cultures

ergo

no multicultralism



Which is where i stepped into this saying we should have one culture in Britian.

British culture.



I could write a long winded thing now but i think i shall sum up with

Fit in and contribute or fk off
Fit into what?

Are you seriously suggesting we draw a line in the sand and declare from this day forth no more changes shall be made to British culture...

I mean really? Did Mick Jagger fit into British culture when he started prancing around in make up in the 60s - was Boy George a neat fit into British culture in the 80s. Did John Barnes snugly fit into the role of British culture when he was missing all those sitters in an England shirt?
they all fitted in and contributed to british culture

if you can't understand that then you are a tard


mattnunn said:
Fit in or fk off - is that really the mantra of all you UKIP supporters? And we don't have any idea why Rotheram social services were worried?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt

WiKi said:
Judith Katz, the white author of White Awareness: Handbook for Anti-Racism Training, is highly critical of what she calls self-indulgent white guilt fixations. Her concerns about white guilt led her to move from black-white group encounters to all-white groups in her anti-racism training. She also avoided using non-white people to re-educate whites, she said, because she found that this led whites to focus on getting acceptance and forgiveness rather than changing their own actions or beliefs
And just incase you don't get my meaning

You appear to suffer from this

Anyone who makes out so much effort to point out others as racist must have some issue with race.

mattnunn

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
they all fitted in and contributed to british culture

if you can't understand that then you are a tard
They created the British culture you live now, as did the East end jews who started frying fish and chips and all the other art, music, culinary and language differences that have come from Asia, Africa, The Caribbean, Ireland and Europe just over my life time let alone the whole of history.

If you seriously suggest to me that British culture must be frozen at this point in time and no new influences and change be made to it from this day forward - presumably because it's so ruddy perfect, then it is you sir who is the tard.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
thinfourth2 said:
they all fitted in and contributed to british culture

if you can't understand that then you are a tard
They created the British culture you live now, as did the East end jews who started frying fish and chips and all the other art, music, culinary and language differences that have come from Asia, Africa, The Caribbean, Ireland and Europe just over my life time let alone the whole of history.

If you seriously suggest to me that British culture must be frozen at this point in time and no new influences and change be made to it from this day forward - presumably because it's so ruddy perfect, then it is you sir who is the tard.
Where did i say that????

I didn't

You created it in your rush to label me as a knuckle dragging racist




And all of the examples you have given

Answer one question

Was this result of a law or policy pushing multiculturalism or was it because of people coming to the UK and fitting in and contributing


0000

13,812 posts

193 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
If you seriously suggest to me
No, he didn't, you 'tard.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Oh P.S.

If you wish to paint me as a racist who believes that our culture is better then others you don't have to

I do believe our culture is better then others


I think the idea of killing your daughter because she looked at a schoolbook is something we don't want in the UK


And i'm racist enough to say it

We're better then that and such cultures are not welcome in my idea of the UK.



mattnunn

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Was this result of a law or policy pushing multiculturalism or was it because of people coming to the UK and fitting in and contributing
Well I guess we have a different idea of fitting in if you think that Mick Jagger, Lynval Golding, Boy George, So Solid crew etc... etc... were fitting in to British culture rather than adding to it.

So you're not against immigration then? Just the policy of multiculturalism - which is essentially nothing more than a beaurocratic process. It's the managment and beaurocrasy you object to not the people coming here?

mattnunn

14,041 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Oh P.S.

If you wish to paint me as a racist who believes that our culture is better then others you don't have to

I do believe our culture is better then others

I think the idea of killing your daughter because she looked at a schoolbook is something we don't want in the UK

And i'm racist enough to say it

We're better then that and such cultures are not welcome in my idea of the UK.
I agree entirely, that in no way would make you a racist, I never suggested you were a racist.

Our culture is better than lots of others, in a large way due to all the external influence it's had over the decades and centuries.

That's not quite the same as saying fit in or fk off though is it, infact it's the exact opposite, if you want to be proud of your country you should be willing to extend a hand of help and guidance. Not writing fit in or fk off on the door mat.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
thinfourth2 said:
Was this result of a law or policy pushing multiculturalism or was it because of people coming to the UK and fitting in and contributing
Well I guess we have a different idea of fitting in if you think that Mick Jagger, Lynval Golding, Boy George, So Solid crew etc... etc... were fitting in to British culture rather than adding to it.
That will be a NO then

They were not as a result of council policies

I think you will also find the examples you have labelled are actually products of british culture not imports to our culture.

bjork is probably a better example as she came here and flourished

And curry

The food not tim

mattnunn said:
So you're not against immigration then? Just the policy of multiculturalism - which is essentially nothing more than a beaurocratic process. It's the managment and beaurocrasy you object to not the people coming here?
Thats you doing the inventing stuff again thing

I have no problem with controlled immigration

More Bjorks and curry please

Less folk shooting 14 year old girls for wanting to go to school

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
thinfourth2 said:
Oh P.S.

If you wish to paint me as a racist who believes that our culture is better then others you don't have to

I do believe our culture is better then others

I think the idea of killing your daughter because she looked at a schoolbook is something we don't want in the UK

And i'm racist enough to say it

We're better then that and such cultures are not welcome in my idea of the UK.
I agree entirely, that in no way would make you a racist, I never suggested you were a racist.
Erm apart from where you said UKIP voters are racist

mattnunn said:
Our culture is better than lots of others, in a large way due to all the external influence it's had over the decades and centuries.

That's not quite the same as saying fit in or fk off though is it, infact it's the exact opposite, if you want to be proud of your country you should be willing to extend a hand of help and guidance. Not writing fit in or fk off on the door mat.
I didn't say fit in or fk off

I said fit in and contribute or fk off


The multiculturalism driven by councils and the white guilt lot is not about help and guidance. It is about encouraging groups to be completely separate and taking the policies pushed forwards by muppets to their logical conclusion then we are out the back of the school shooting 14 year old girls in the head.




BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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mattnunn said:
Dixie68 said:
mattnunn said:
The UK by nature is a multicutural Isle, failure to recognise the emergent nature of culture and trying to draw a line at a point in history and saying this is our culture now and all must obey it at the expense of other has been tried in the past - by racists.
The above quote is why it is so difficult to sensibly discuss immigration without someone pointing and shouting "racist".
It is NOT racist to want to control immigration.
No one said it was did they?
rofl You did you 'tard rofl

When people told me you were special I had no idea quite how 'special' you really are. Did they give you a lot of badges at school?