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[TheRealFingers99]

Grumfutock said:

Who reported him as Spanish? Not I!

The original poster described it as a Spanish report. I didn't see you denying it!

Grumfutock said:

And just as a small point of order, and I quote: [i]"At what point did I say Israel was whiter than white?"[/b] Soure: page 261 3rd post from bottom, in a reply to you. This isn't hard to follow.

Now kindly post where I said Israel are whiter than white.

Seriously if you are going to take a pop kindly get the facts right!

OK, so where do you state that IDF, the Zionist terrorists, etc. are murdering bds?

[TheRealFingers99]

Grumfutock said:

What would you like me to "put up"?

From a great historian such as yourself, a reasoned, considered, rebuttal of the position of the Jewish scholars in California. They could probably provide you with a bibliography were you to eMail them and ask.

[Grumfutock]

TheRealFingers99 said:

OK, so where do you state that IDF, the Zionist terrorists, etc. are murdering bds?

I don't because that isn't my opinion. Why are you struggling to comprehend this?

[968]

Grumfutock said:

The Questions are:

1. Is the paper the professors opinion? That's opinion, assessment, notion, to postulate, supposition, hypothesis, speculation. Reference source: A Thesaurus.

2. Why have you said that you dismiss the last 60 years of Israel's history as propaganda and lies. Or is that your opinion? Reference source: Pistonheads.


Cogent enough?

1. No. It's a factual statement. Their credentials are self evident in their qualifications. What are yours?

2. I said that the history had been misrepresented to justify their illegal expansion of their territory. The expansion of the territory is illegal under international law, that is not opinion but fact. Their motivations for doing this are a matter of opinion.

Grow up when composing a response. Your continued attempts at sarcasm are painfully embarrassing.

Edited by 968 on Tuesday 19th August 13:38

[Grumfutock]

TheRealFingers99 said:

BLAH BLAH BLAH YAWN

[TheRealFingers99]

Grumfutock said:

TheRealFingers99 said:

BLAH BLAH BLAH YAWN

Boring -- and pretty much a violation of all forum and scholarly protocol.

You really need to grow up a little so you can argue with adults.

[Grumfutock]

968 said:

Grumfutock said:

The Questions are:

1. Is the paper the professors opinion? That's opinion, assessment, notion, to postulate, supposition, hypothesis, speculation. Reference source: A Thesaurus.

2. Why have you said that you dismiss the last 60 years of Israel's history as propaganda and lies. Or is that your opinion? Reference source: Pistonheads.


Cogent enough?

1. No. It's a factual statement. Their credentials are self evident in their qualifications. What are yours?

2. No, that's not what I said. I said that the history had been misrepresented to justify their illegal expansion of their territory. The expansion of the territory is illegal under international law, that is not opinion but fact. Their motivations for doing this are a matter of opinion.

Grow up when composing a response. Your continued attempts at sarcasm are painfully embarrassing.

1. Wow it is factual! Not opinion then? er OK, I beg to differ.

2. Oh no that isn't what you said now is it? "Oh the irony! We have had 60 years of Israeli propaganda about their victim status, and mostly this has been an utter lie, much like most of your posts in fact." Page 260, 4th post down. No you never said that at all. Never your words! Oh the IRONY!

I have complied with your request, sorry, demands, for sources. Now if you then choose to take that as sarcasm that is your problem. It certainly isn't causing me any pain.

Look pal, you are an eye doctor right? May I suggest a trip to Spec Savers because if you cant even see what you have written then you are in trouble.

[TheRealFingers99]

Grumfutock said:

TheRealFingers99 said:

OK, so where do you state that IDF, the Zionist terrorists, etc. are murdering bds?

I don't because that isn't my opinion. Why are you struggling to comprehend this?

I'm not struggling to understand what your "opinion" is. Just to understand how (and even why) you manage to hold it!

A few pages ago I listed a number of Zionist/Israeli atrocities. They included attacks on defenceless Arab villages, the cluster bombing of Lebanon while seated at the peace table, the activities of Irgun and the other thugs. No rebuttal was given.

[Joey Ramone]

Pointless fking thread. Hundreds of pages of circular arguments and name calling.

[968]

Grumfutock said:

1. Wow it is factual! Not opinion then? er OK, I beg to differ.

2. Oh no that isn't what you said now is it? "Oh the irony! We have had 60 years of Israeli propaganda about their victim status, and mostly this has been an utter lie, much like most of your posts in fact." Page 260, 4th post down. No you never said that at all. Never your words! Oh the IRONY!

I have complied with your request, sorry, demands, for sources. Now if you then choose to take that as sarcasm that is your problem. It certainly isn't causing me any pain.

Look pal, you are an eye doctor right? May I suggest a trip to Spec Savers because if you cant even see what you have written then you are in trouble.

Congratulations at pointing out an error on a post I made, which I subsequently corrected, typed in a hurry. Unlike you, I'm able to admit where I made a mistake. It's a part of being an adult. I'm sure that's a new concept to you considering your conduct becoming a spoilt child having a tantrum with each response.

Once again your continuous stream of sarcasm in your posts does you no credit at all, indeed it is pathetically embarrassing conduct.

With regards to the actual discussion, the statement made by the two expert academics was made with reference to factual events, not opinion. Frankly even if they were opinions I'd sooner listen to a mature exposition of the topic rather than the childish rantings of an ignorant coward like yourself.

I still await the specific historical events they reference in their letter that you disagree with.

[TheRealFingers99]

Joey Ramone said:

Pointless fking thread. Hundreds of pages of circular arguments and name calling.

Well, I don't think anyone actually expected a resolution. That really would be a first: "Pistonheads Resolves Middle East Crisis".

[league67]

Grumfutock said:

league67 said:

Grumfutock said:

league67 said:

Do you ever wonder why so many people, who don't know each other, think that you are both stupid and socipath? Could it be another conspiracy?

So many? What about 5 of you share an opinion? Wow the WHOLE world is against us.

When spoken to, grasshopper.

You were referring to somebody else? Really?

Yes, to scuffers, although you are right, it equally applies to you.

[Grumfutock]

league67 said:

Grumfutock said:

league67 said:

Grumfutock said:

league67 said:

Do you ever wonder why so many people, who don't know each other, think that you are both stupid and socipath? Could it be another conspiracy?

So many? What about 5 of you share an opinion? Wow the WHOLE world is against us.

When spoken to, grasshopper.

You were referring to somebody else? Really?

Yes, to scuffers, although you are right, it equally applies to you.

Oh sorry, both Scuffers. Now I get it.

[Alpinestars]

I'm sure Grumpy and Scuffers know more about the situation than these people as well.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0FS1WC201...

[Grumfutock]

968 said:

Congratulations at pointing out an error on a post I made, which I subsequently corrected, typed in a hurry. Unlike you, I'm able to admit where I made a mistake. It's a part of being an adult. I'm sure that's a new concept to you considering your conduct becoming a spoilt child having a tantrum with each response.

Once again your continuous stream of sarcasm in your posts does you no credit at all, indeed it is pathetically embarrassing conduct.

With regards to the actual discussion, the statement made by the two expert academics was made with reference to factual events, not opinion. Frankly even if they were opinions I'd sooner listen to a mature exposition of the topic rather than the childish rantings of an ignorant coward like yourself.

I still await the specific historical events they reference in their letter that you disagree with.

I may do sarcasm nut your, frankly boring, attempts at insults are pathetic. Coward? Really? OK, your opinion I guess. May I suggest you read back a few pages. Yep I am a coward. I will wager the most dangerous thing you have ever done is eat a slightly dodgy kebab.

PATHETIC! Now goodbye you ignorant little man.

[968]

Grumfutock said:

I may do sarcasm nut your, frankly boring, attempts at insults are pathetic. Coward? Really? OK, your opinion I guess. May I suggest you read back a few pages. Yep I am a coward. I will wager the most dangerous thing you have ever done is eat a slightly dodgy kebab.

PATHETIC! Now goodbye you ignorant little man.

Thank you for aptly demonstrating what I've stated about your level of immaturity and inability to debate a subject in a rational way. Yes you're a coward because you cannot answer the question and you cannot admit that there might be an expert who knows more about this subject than you and perhaps you're wrong.

[TheRealFingers99]

Israel deny access to Gaza to Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Wonder why?

[RedTrident]

Joey Ramone said:

Pointless fking thread. Hundreds of pages of circular arguments and name calling.

I wouldn't say it was pointless. At every stage the defenders of child murderers have been shown to trying to defend the indefensible. And that the majority of people who have any insight on this issue see Israel for the thieving war criminal terrorist state that it is.

Not pointless at all. The world is turning against people who use past atrocities before their life time to justify putting other people in concentration camps.

[Grumfutock]

968 said:

Grumfutock said:

I may do sarcasm nut your, frankly boring, attempts at insults are pathetic. Coward? Really? OK, your opinion I guess. May I suggest you read back a few pages. Yep I am a coward. I will wager the most dangerous thing you have ever done is eat a slightly dodgy kebab.

PATHETIC! Now goodbye you ignorant little man.

Thank you for aptly demonstrating what I've stated about your level of immaturity and inability to debate a subject in a rational way. Yes you're a coward because you cannot answer the question and you cannot admit that there might be an expert who knows more about this subject than you and perhaps you're wrong.

My dear Doctor. May I suggest you look up the meaning of the word coward and immaturity.

You arrogance and ignorance know no limit or bounds. More insults will be met with the same. I bid you farewell.

[Blib]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Israel deny access to Gaza to Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. Wonder why?

Maybe for a similar reason to why Mrs Blib quit as a lead Advocate for Amnesty many, many years ago. Covert & overt deeply political agendas?