Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 7

[Alpacaman]

This would be the same Rev that fluff donates money to, and seems to think is a lovely person. And the nats worship him and his so called financial knowledge.

[Welshbeef]

Alpacaman said:

This would be the same Rev that fluff donates money to, and seems to think is a lovely person. And the nats worship him and his so called financial knowledge.

Is he an actual Rev or is that his "street" name?
Doesn't he live in Bath
Is he ripping people off with donations?
Is he a registered charity?
Is he declaring all the donations on his self assessment? (I might actually donate £1 then flag up to HMRC to ensure that he is pulled up for not declaring income.

[///ajd]

r11co said:

Welshbeef said:

He seems a vile person who has no empathy.

Perfect qualities to be a nationalist. Haters gotta hate.

PS. He's also a small-time crook, but that is another story.

What story was that? is that related to dodgy pirate computer games? i recall seeing something about his company address in bath being made out to be something it wasn't?

[simoid]

Welshbeef said:

Is he an actual Rev or is that his "street" name?
Doesn't he live in Bath
Is he ripping people off with donations?
Is he a registered charity?
Is he declaring all the donations on his self assessment? (I might actually donate £1 then flag up to HMRC to ensure that he is pulled up for not declaring income.

Self titled, yes, yes, no, who knows?

[fluffnik]

Alpacaman said:

This would be the same Rev that fluff donates money to, and seems to think is a lovely person. And the nats worship him and his so called financial knowledge.

I don't think he's lovely, though he can be entertaining company.

It's his awesome memory/archive and evicerative skills that make him value for money.

Welshbeef said:

Is he an actual Rev or is that his "street" name?

I believe he has a click thru ordination from the Universal Life Church; I have one too, though I don't generally use the honorific.

Welshbeef said:

Doesn't he live in Bath

He does, having moved from Bathgate when he got a job with Future Publishing.

Welshbeef said:

Is he ripping people off with donations?

No, he provides what we paid for.

Welshbeef said:

Is he a registered charity?

No, though WoS were registered with Electoral Commission during the referendum.

Welshbeef said:

Is he declaring all the donations on his self assessment? (I might actually donate £1 then flag up to HMRC to ensure that he is pulled up for not declaring income.

I would expect so, since they're all a matter of public record.

I'm sure your £1 will be most welcome!

[technodup]

The EU referendum is great. I just remembered we're having an election up here next week and I've heard virtually nothing about it. Don't know my candidates, haven't seen any third rate election debates, haven't a clue what the 'issues' are.

It seems not watching any Scottish TV ouput (who would?), combined with the UK focus on Brexit equals Scottish election blackout. Can we leave the EU every five years please?

[Welshbeef]

fluffnik said:

I would expect so, since they're all a matter of public record.

I'm sure your £1 will be most welcome!

What did you/others pay for?

[simoid]

Welshbeef said:

What did you/others pay for?

To offend as many people as possible, preferably English, so they kick Scotland out of the oppressive regime of which we have chosen to be part

[simoid]

technodup said:

The EU referendum is great. I just remembered we're having an election up here next week and I've heard virtually nothing about it. Don't know my candidates, haven't seen any third rate election debates, haven't a clue what the 'issues' are.

It seems not watching any Scottish TV ouput (who would?), combined with the UK focus on Brexit equals Scottish election blackout. Can we leave the EU every five years please?

Don't tell Natty Nic, she was already raging about their proximity!

[hidetheelephants]

technodup said:

The EU referendum is great. I just remembered we're having an election up here next week and I've heard virtually nothing about it. Don't know my candidates, haven't seen any third rate election debates, haven't a clue what the 'issues' are.

It seems not watching any Scottish TV ouput (who would?), combined with the UK focus on Brexit equals Scottish election blackout. Can we leave the EU every five years please?

A quick summary to bring you up to speed; in short there's fk all difference between them bar the shouting.

Yellow/black party - both votes for us please, we need more powers so we can not use them!!
Yellow party - both votes for us please, we're still relevant!!
Green party - both votes for us please, we're more socialist than the yellow/blacks and we really do hate fracking!!
Blue party - both votes for us please, tax cuts but only when the economy picks up, so never as there'll be another neverendum along to knacker any nascent recovery.
Red party - both votes for us please, we're more socialist than the yellow/blacks again, sorry about the lapse in leftness. No extra taxation though, we're socialist, not crazy.
Tommy Sheridan appreciation society - both votes ta; rejoice, Tommy will lead us onto the bright communitarian uplands of tommytopia and enjoy the tangerine glow from his and Gail's boatraces. Everything will be nationalised and evil tories banished.
The official we hate Tommy Sheridan party - both votes or else we'll send Senga round; glorious workers' paradise, much better than communitarian uplands. Everything nationalised at least twice, especially steel, mines, trains, buses and shipyards.
Purple/yellow party - both votes for us please, we'll cut your taxes and take Scotland out of the EU!

[Axionknight]

Tommytopia, I like it.

[Welshbeef]

So did anyone watch the debate last night?

Kezia weak
Sturgeon kept her A game until this debate
Ruth a solid second place
Greens nowhere
Libs nowhere.

[r11co]

///ajd said:

What story was that? is that related to dodgy pirate computer games? i recall seeing something about his company address in bath being made out to be something it wasn't?

That's the one. By pure coincidence his home address also happened to be the mailing address for a pirate software operation that has since disappeared off the radar.

fluffnik said:

It's his awesome memory/archive and evicerative skills that make him value for money.

Both classic characteristics of a sociopath. So is lack of empathy and an unflinching belief in one's own self-righteousness.

Sounds bang on the button to me.



ETA. The problem with his 'awesome memory' though is that he is also prone to 'creative re-interpretation' of facts to suit his view point, the classic example being his manipulation of the tweet exchanges between JK Rowling and that other sneak-theif Natalie McGarry to falsify the timeline. Caught bang-to-rights on that one, yet despite that and the Hillsborough thing people still follow him. Says as much about them as him (and I include fluffnik in that - you lacked credibility before and now you just make yourself our to be another snake.)

Edited by r11co on Monday 2nd May 10:44

[technodup]

Welshbeef said:

So did anyone watch the debate last night?

I caught a bit of it by accident.

My conclusion? Kezia Dugdale looks really bad in a dress. I'm no expert on women's fashion but it looked like a man in drag.

I switched off when a blimp on the front row claimed we all woke up from the referendum and realised we'd been duped. In fairness though apart from the mentalist Green it seemed like the 'let's attack Sturgeon' show.

[exitwound]

technodup said:

Welshbeef said:

So did anyone watch the debate last night?

I caught a bit of it by accident.

My conclusion? Kezia Dugdale looks really bad in a dress. I'm no expert on women's fashion but it looked like a man in drag.

I switched off when a blimp on the front row claimed we all woke up from the referendum and realised we'd been duped. In fairness though apart from the mentalist Green it seemed like the 'let's attack Sturgeon' show.

Seen Kezia in tight trousers.. She's got a great b*m!.

Hate that whining wee voice though, "..just a wee bit on your income tax for the NHS and maybe a wee bit more later for education, ...then, when your used to it, we'll take you back to the socialist/corbynesque '60's when your income tax rates were 50% for low earners and 83% for the better off and we'll nationalise everything, ...who cares if none of it makes a profit, your increasing taxes will support it all!!"

This election. I want to see labour getting totally annihilated in Scotland and SNP getting a real kicking by the Tory voters... I'm not a Tory fan as such, but I don't want to see income tax rises. SNP will do this after the election, but not before in case they lose votes.

[Troubleatmill]

Once the SNP start playing with the taxes, and people see the impact in their wallet - then they will be in for a bumpy ride.

[simoid]

Troubleatmill said:

Once the SNP start playing with the taxes, and people see the impact in their wallet - then they will be in for a bumpy ride.

I don't think they will actually do it. They'll pull out and blame the Tories.

[Welshbeef]

simoid said:

Troubleatmill said:

Once the SNP start playing with the taxes, and people see the impact in their wallet - then they will be in for a bumpy ride.

I don't think they will actually do it. They'll pull out and blame the Tories.

But they have no choice.

The rule is the taxes will not change unless they make the change to statute - so in the instances whereby UK make changes is 40% starting rate to £50k they have a choice to match hold or halfway house of some sort.

[bigkeeko]

simoid said:

I don't think they will actually do it. They'll pull out and blame the Tories.

Had we been unfortunate (stupid) enough to vote ourselves independent and when it had it all gone pear shaped it would have been, and always will be, the fault of the Tories.

[csd19]

Welshbeef said:

simoid said:

Troubleatmill said:

Once the SNP start playing with the taxes, and people see the impact in their wallet - then they will be in for a bumpy ride.

I don't think they will actually do it. They'll pull out and blame the Tories.

But they have no choice.

The rule is the taxes will not change unless they make the change to statute - so in the instances whereby UK make changes is 40% starting rate to £50k they have a choice to match hold or halfway house of some sort.

That's exactly what the plan is, to not match the rUK's increases in personal allowance.

"Come to Scotland, work hard and be successful, and we will guarantee to tax more of your salary than if you lived in England. Welcome to the SNP..."

They love to bang on about a fairer society - what the hell is fair about paying more tax? By all means help those who cannot work, be it through disability/health issues, but hammer those who cannot be arsed.